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  •  Not In This Case (2+ / 0-)
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    AoT, dharmafarmer
    Obviously it has come in handy in this case, but I think there's a larger point to be made here.

    I agree (here and in plenty of other posts) with the larger point that militarized police cause more trouble (and violence, and crimes) than they help. But it is precisely because in this case that military backed police "have come in handy" that this case is the worst time to make the case against them.

    The case against them in this case is that they killed one suspect and let the other get away without getting any info from them. This case makes the argument that the entire approach we've funded and ceded liberties to is worthless and worse.

    We need less military, and more intelligence. Both in police and Federal support in cases like this (and in this case), and in the many other cases we're misusing our military for. A vastly smaller military, and a focused and accountable intelligence service, would actually protect us.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 11:34:42 AM PDT

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    •  I think you just made the case (0+ / 0-)

      against a militarized police force perfectly.

      The case against them in this case is that they killed one suspect and let the other get away without getting any info from them. This case makes the argument that the entire approach we've funded and ceded liberties to is worthless and worse.

      We need less military, and more intelligence. Both in police and Federal support in cases like this (and in this case), and in the many other cases we're misusing our military for. A vastly smaller military, and a focused and accountable intelligence service, would actually protect us.

      I wish I could put it so well.

      If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

      by AoT on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 11:46:16 AM PDT

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      •  I Agree (1+ / 0-)
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        After I thought about your last reply to my last post, I realized you were right. I talked myself through it, though I hadn't noticed by the time I posted. I changed my own mind, but I wouldn't have without your perspective.

        Thanks.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 09:55:12 PM PDT

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