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  •  It's in the Caucasus. (6+ / 0-)
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    If the reporting so far is accurate: the family is from Chechnya and the older son was born there.  They were displaced by the war and spent time in both Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan (where the younger son was born.)  From their social media culled from various sites, they self-identify as Chechen.

    It's too early yet to get a concrete sense of what was behind the bombings, and while I share Ray's concern that the media was immediately trying to find a jidhadist angle, it's certainly one of the three most likely scenarios.  The first is that, as some other commenters have pointed out, we're dealing with a Columbine-style act of individual violence.  The second is that there's a national element, which motivates a lot of Chechen violence in Russia, but wouldn't make much sense here.  The third is that there's an Islamist connection, which at least makes sense as a motivation in the states, though there isn't yet any strong evidence outside of the older brother's religious self-identification and his apparent dissatisfaction with America (which may or may not be linked.)  Chechen Islamist/separatist violence does have an historical relationship with Al Qaeda (a real one, not a Bush-fabricated one), so it's natural for people to at least raise that possibility... But the younger brother appears to have had very little connection with Chechnya itself, so it's a hasty generalization.

    At any rate, and to echo Ray again, I do think it's best to wait and see what comes out the wash.  We don't know.  We can take guesses, but they aren't much better than the people on this site who (shamefully) were trying to build Tea Party connections just after the bombing.

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    by pico on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 11:22:19 AM PDT

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    •  In fact.. I wouldn't normally link to WaPo, but (1+ / 0-)
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      this is about as good a quick introduction to the region and issues you're going to find online.  And the takeaway point is spot-on:

      [W]hatever the Boston Marathon suspects believed and whomever they blamed, the Caucasus conflict has too complicated a history to be pinned on any one group or ideology....

      None of this necessarily means that the Chechen and Dagestan conflicts will define or “explain” what happened at the Boston Marathon, but as more biographical details emerge linking these two young suspects to a restive and little-understood part of the world, it can’t hurt to better understand what’s happening there and why it’s been so troubled.

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      by pico on Fri Apr 19, 2013 at 11:54:37 AM PDT

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