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  •  Who's "we?" (5+ / 0-)

    In a time of scarcity, the wealthy will do OK, and the poor will suffer.

    Most Americans, despite everything, remain wealthy in a global perspective.

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 09:16:57 AM PDT

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    •  asdf (9+ / 0-)

      Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

      Lessons from 2012: Droughts, not Hurricanes, are the Greater Danger
      Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:34 PM GMT on November 16, 2012     +51    

      Drought: civilization's greatest natural enemy
      People fear storms, and spectacular and devastating storms like Hurricane Sandy and Hurricane Katrina have stirred more debate in the U.S. about taking action against climate change than any other weather event. But I argue that this attention is misplaced. Drought is our greatest enemy. Drought impacts the two things we need to live--food and water. The history of civilization is filled with tales of great storms that have killed thousands and caused untold suffering and destruction. But cities impacted by great storms inevitably recover and rebuild, often stronger than before. I expect that New York City, the coast of New Jersey, and other areas battered by Sandy will do likewise. But drought can crash civilizations. Drought experts Justin Sheffield and Eric Wood of Princeton, in their 2011 book, Drought, list more than ten civilizations and cultures that probably collapsed because of drought. Among them: The Mayans of 800 - 1000 AD. The Anasazi culture in the Southwest U.S. in the 11th - 12th centuries. The ancient Akkadian Empire in Mesopotamia. The Chinese Ming Dynasty of 1500 - 1730. When the rains stop and the soil dries up, cities die and civilizations collapse, as people abandon lands no longer able to supply them with the food and water they need to live.

      Figure 2. Ruins of the Cliff Palace at Mesa Verde National Park in Colorado. Beginning in 1150 AD, North America experienced a 300-year drought called the Great Drought. This drought has often been cited as a primary cause of the collapse of the ancient Anasazi civilization in the Southwest U.S., and abandonment of places like the Cliff Palace.

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      by divineorder on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 09:45:18 AM PDT

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    •  when civilization comes apart (7+ / 0-)

      the wealthy will fare no better.  If there are food riots and shortages, a lot of bits in a bank's computer won't help all that much.  How many wealthy Russians or Chinese kept their wealth intact post revolution?  And that was a small local upheaval.  Put another way, where are the wealthy Anasazi or Easter Islanders now?

      Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

      by Mindful Nature on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 11:18:24 AM PDT

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      •  Collapse affects the whole system, time is key (2+ / 0-)
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        to understanding the way rich and poor are affected. The rich have greater initial reserves that will help them last longer than the poor but the whole system depends on food and collapse of the system affects those who sit on top of the pyramid eventually. It is the societal pyramid that creates the wealth disparity we call rich and poor. After reading Guns Germs and Steel I understood more clearly something I intuitively understood, civilization as we know it is dependent on the ability to create a food supply to feed everyone that leaves a lot of human time available for other activities. No easy food, no civilization.

        Love = Awareness of mutually beneficial exchange across semi-permeable boundaries. Political and economic systems either amplify or inhibit Love.

        by Bob Guyer on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 01:31:47 PM PDT

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