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    AaronInSanDiego

    I can confirm that this is one of the most interesting things about the Marriage Equality debate and this significant victory in NZ. Williamson is one of a bunch of older, heterosexual, soon to retire, National Party (read Conservative) politicians who joined the rainbow coalition on the other side. This rather startling kind of bipartisanship was enabled by the fact that this was a 'conscience vote' not a party vote in which politicians could vote irrespective of party alleigance. We've been wondering if we can now introduce a conscience vote to just abolish political parties altogether coz the outcomes seem be much more sensible (and fun!).

    "Both sides are just the same". Voter shorthand for "I haven't been paying attention".

    •  At least from a distance (1+ / 0-)
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      smelly pirate

      it frequently seems to me that NZ is a much more progressive place than the US in general, and yet they have a conservative governing coalition. But I would guess the National Party is not quite the same as our Republican Party.

      Gondwana has always been at war with Laurasia.

      by AaronInSanDiego on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 05:51:35 PM PDT

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      •  absolutely, (1+ / 0-)
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        AaronInSanDiego

        althought sometimes it doesn't feel like it. I had the chance to talk with one of the National Party politicians a few months back who is a big Obama fan. He considered that Obama would be a centrist in the National Party caucus but much too right wing for the Labour or Green parties.

        I think this is a fair assessment given Obama's domestic policies and approaches (conditioned as they are by the domesticated insanity of US politics). As a global politician his reputation is much more complex. Even the Centre/Left parties in Europe and NZ love him as a successor to the prior neo-con regime in the US. However, OMG, the Drones, the Drones, the Drones!!!!!

        "Both sides are just the same". Voter shorthand for "I haven't been paying attention".

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