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  •  NO. I'm not "young"... (3+ / 0-)

    and in English, my tone is just questioning. I am very clear that nothing is answered quickly in cases like this, but I'm old enough to remember that sometimes, history gets rewritten by the victors to remove the spoilage of public opinion and memory. And then even later, someone goes, "Oh yeah, they DID say/show that in the paper/video/etc. at the very beginning. How did THAT get written out of the record?"

    I too agree with you that the whole story will not be known until later. But with the access granted to the media and the historical implications of crowd-sourced crime-tipping and the really historical lockdown of an entire metropolitan area, and the implication that the Younger Tsarnaev was all-American until April 15th, but that his older brother was a bad bad dude and good riddance (which I can only agree with since that's the only evidence presented thus far), I, perhaps naively, thought it was worth a discussion.

    When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

    by Havoth on Sat Apr 20, 2013 at 04:23:23 PM PDT

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    •  I believe it's worth a discussion. (0+ / 0-)

      However, I find it very difficult to discuss things with people whose words seem so angry. The young man who is presently fighting for his life remains a US citizen, so I'm not sure what you mean. And while I feel sorry for him, as it seems he was very devoted to his brother and was duped by him, and now has lost him, I can't forget that there are four dead people, and many others who are horribly injured. We'd all like to see our justice system work exactly like we were taught in school. I've long since given up the hope that that will ever happen.

    •  Thanks for asking the questions (6+ / 0-)

      I'm really surprised at all the venom directed towards this diarist. I'm new here and was looking for some intelligent, non conspiracy-theorist, but still skeptical and thinking questioning. Not what I found here.  With all the interest in shutting people down, HRing them, shaming them, etc, you can't have a real discussion. If this is a bastion of liberalism, we're in trouble.

      •  This diarist thanks you for that. (1+ / 0-)
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        I do have some sympathy for my impression (given by dubious media reports) of the younger brother. It's tragic all around. But there are millions who are going to take care of the wounded and support them. I'm more of the mindset of a defense attorney, the most hated people at times.

        I still feel the media in general has failed to ask some questions about how this chase went about. I think the potential for future abuses of police powers lies in this historically new example. And the real RW conspiracy nutz are just getting started.

        The debates about Miranda, public safety etc., are healthy IMHO. I can only arm myself with info available in my home, as I can't travel around like an angel and bring the truth the light. There is something hinky about this whole thing. I haven't put my finger on it yet, but I've never seen the authorities USE the press like they did for this event. There is something rather impressive about that, and a little disturbing. I don't think it's a conspiracy, I think its an accidental benefit suddenly realized by the authorities who used to always regard the press as enemies of the lawful do-gooders.

        The (somewhat) venomous comments about my language is ok by me and instructional. I read my stuff out loud to myself because I try to write as if I'm speaking. But it's hard to put punctuation to make it truly sound good on paper-screen. I don't mind the lessons aobut what words jump out at some people and what words seem to get missed altogether in their emphasis.

        When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

        by Havoth on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 11:19:46 AM PDT

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      •  ...hi... (1+ / 0-)
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        Ignorance is bliss only for the ignorant. The rest of us must suffer the consequences.

        by paradise50 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 11:22:58 AM PDT

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