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  •  A culture of obedience has to have exemplars (4+ / 0-)
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    to demonstrate to the whole population what happens to people who don't obey.

    The Cons are people who are convinced that government exists for them to "legally" make other people do what they want. In other words, they perceive government as legitimately coercive and, since coercion is likely to be resisted, it is necessary to have a population on whom the alternative measures -- i.e. deprivation as punishment -- can be pointed out.
    The fact that we have millions of people-less housing units at the same time that we have homeless people is not a happenstance. That's the result of public policy. In the olden days, when there were many fewer owner-occupied housing units, there were many more alternatives (rooming houses, residential hotels, hostels) which were not excluded via zoning regulations. There was no effort, for example, to exclude children from "senior citizen" or "adult" communities.
    The "ownership society" GWB was promoting is just segregation in another form. Looked at objectively, it tells us that segregation is a desideratum as an instrument of social control (individuals are easier to handle than a group), regardless of the characteristics of the targets/victims.
    What they do to the least of us, they will try to do to all of us, if we let them get away with it.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 06:22:52 AM PDT

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    •  very insighful Hannah... (1+ / 0-)
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      The effort to establish a hierarchy, to be on top,  seems to echo throughout human history.

      It has occurred to me what an astonishing and brave thing it is that we do in our often very failed but sometimes successful attempt at  democracy.  


      •  Hierarchies based on talent and achievement (2+ / 0-)
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        are one thing; hierarchies based on force are another.
        It's my sense that the Americas conributed the former to the U.S. but we don't appreciate it enough.

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:27:08 AM PDT

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        •  We have was likely (1+ / 0-)
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          the plutocracy of the intelligent who planted our flag on the moon.

          And yes we should appreciate it more.  And appreciate whatever kind of contribution anyone can make.  No matter how small.  

          I spend (too much) time at my local coffee shop.  There is a group of mentally challenged folks who walk by sometimes in the care of their very good attendants.  Their smiles ...well..something to appreciate.

          And completely ot, but one of the other regulars is an Iranian immigrant who has been studying diligently for his citizenship.  He passed!  I congratulated him heartily and said welcome.  Another smile.


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