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  •  Over 20000 Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11, (0+ / 0-)

    i.e. counting only those committed in the name of Islam (hence, to make it explicitly clear, not counting other kinds of, "usual" and "unusual," crimes committed by Muslims), with over 100,000 deaths and countless more thousands maimed (majority of innocent victims of those Jihad attacks were Muslims themselves, but  a substantial %age non-Muslims as well): that's about 4.9 Islamic terrorist attacks and about 25 dead victims of Islamic Jihad per day, every single f'n day!

    The Boston marathon bombing is just one of those Jihad attacks, and there have been so many more in the just the 6 days since then as well:

    TROP's
    List of Islamic Terror Attacks

    Date     Country     City     Killed     Injured     Description

    2013.04.21     Afghanistan     Paktika     3     5     Three civilians at a shopping mall are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
    2013.04.20     Pakistan     Khar     4     4     A female Fedayeen blows herself up outside a hospital, taking four innocents with her.
    2013.04.19     Pakistan     Wana     4     8     Taliban extremists send rockets into an election rally, killing four people.
    2013.04.19     Iraq     Khalis     7     14     A Mujahideen mortar attack on a rival mosques leave seven dead.
    2013.04.19     USA     Watertown, MA     1     1     Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
    2013.04.18     Iraq     Baghdad     32     65     Children are among nearly three dozen people at a coffee shop obliterated by a Shahid suicide bomber.
    2013.04.18     Kenya     Garissa     9     3     al-Shabaab gunmen burst into a hotel and mow down nine people having dinner.
    2013.04.18     Pakistan     Hyderabad     1     0     A secular politician is assassinated by religious radicals.
    2013.04.17     Afghanistan     Shindad     7     4     Seven women and children are dismantled by a Mujahid shrapnel bomb.
    2013.04.17     India     Bangalore     0     16     The Indian Mujahideen detonate a bomb outside a Hindu party office.
    2013.04.16     Pakistan     Peshawar     16     35     Two children are among sixteen innocents torn to shreds by a Holy Warrior suicide bomber.
    2013.04.16     Pakistan     Syed Gai     9     8     A Shahid suicide bomber at a checkpoint sends other nine souls to Allah.
    2013.04.16     Afghanistan     Mali Zai     8     0     Religion of Peace bombers take down eight members of the same family.
    2013.04.16     Pakistan     Khuzdar     3     0     Islamists are thought responsible for the cold-blooded murder of a politician's family.
    2013.04.16     Nigeria     Kaduna     2     0     Islamists gun down two police officers on their way home from work.
    2013.04.16     Pakistan     Jamaldinwali     2     0     Two women are 'honor killed' by their families for moral crime.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Kamaliya     4     13     An al-Qaeda bombing near an elementary school leaves four dead.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Nasiriyah     2     14     Two civilians are sent to Allah by al-Qaeda bombers.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Habibiya     10     12     At least ten Iraqis at an auto mall are taken out by Mujahid car bombers.
    2013.04.15     Afghanistan     Mali Zai     7     4     Seven civilians are pulled into pieces by Taliban bombers.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Umm al-Maalif     4     15     Islamic bombers destroy a market, along with four patrons.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Baghdad     4     29     Two Mujahid bombings leave four dead at a commercial district.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Tuz Khurmatu     6     67     Six people are torn to shreds by al-Qaeda bombers.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Kirkuk     9     79     Six car bombs leave at least nine Iraqis dead.
    2013.04.15     Pakistan     Dera Ismail Khan     2     3     Sunni militants murder two election workers.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Mussayab     2     13     Religious extremists car bomb an open air market, killing at least two.
    2013.04.15     Pakistan     Banjot     1     0     A secular-leaning politician is blown to bits by fundamentalist bombers.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Khalis     1     8     Mujahideen bombers murder a child.
    2013.04.15     Iraq     Fallujah     2     14     A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out two innocents along a city street.
    2013.04.15     Pakistan     Karachi     1     0     Lashkar-e-Jhangvi murder a man for being a Shiite.

    2013.04.15     USA     Boston, MA     3     170     Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
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    (don't just dismiss the TROP site off-hand; you and DK are better than that. If you dissent with the findings of the list, take it up as a challenge to rigorously disprove the claimed data.)

    That's:
    -- 3 (innocent and apparently wonderful) people killed + 170 injured on 4/15/2013 in Boston, and
    -- 163 killed + 434 injured in the six days since,
    by Islamic terrorists.

    E...NOUGH!

    Don't you think the time has come for the left to become reality-based regarding Islamic Jihad?

    The fact is that violent Jihad as well as political Jihad (Islamism in its various forms) are both real and present phenomena, and they pose a lethal threat to the human rights of countless non-Muslims in Muslim-majority lands, as well as to innocent Muslim victims there, and they're forces diametrically and severely opposed, just about everywhere, to the values and ideals that we consider progressive and seek to advance around the world.

    In your list, only Eric Rudolph can be said to have committed, and that too only tangentially (Scott Roeder's murder of George Tiller would have been direct; why didn't you include him in your list), terrorist acts in the name of his religion.

    Bill Maher's calling out of the left's BS on Islam (v Christianity) is a truthful and sanguine rebuke, indeed.

    •  This is growing tiresome. (2+ / 0-)
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      Bisbonian, aitchdee

      I don't give a shit whether they did it "in the name of their religion" or not. The 6 men listed above murdered a total of at least 227 people and wounded over 1,000, and every damned one of them was a white, Christian American-born male. Their victims don't care what their rationale was.

      As for the tenets of Islam commanding followers to kill infidels, etc, what of it? The vast majority of Muslims ignore that, just as the vast majority of Catholics ignore the Vatican's official stance on birth control, and most Jews (in America, anyway) are known to eat a cheeseburger or pepperoni pizza from time to time.

      Here's a classic clip from The West Wing which points out how many commandments to kill people for idiotic reasons were found in the Old Testament. Yet, the vast majority of Christians and Jews ignore these with good reason.

      And yet...you list "over 100,000 dead", which is a shocking number indeed--almost as bad as the 120,000 Iraqi civilians that we slaughtered for no particular reason other than, according to George W. Bush himself, "God told me to". Another white, Christian, American-born male. The fact that he happened to be President doesn't change that.

      I am NOT "defending Islam" here. For fuck's sake, I'm an Israeli-supporting Jew myself. A quick Google search suggests that there's roughly 2.2 billion Muslims and an equal number of Christians, so it would be fascinating to find out just how many "civilians" (hard to define in many cases) have been murdered by each worldwide. Perhaps the numbers are significantly tilted towards Muslims, perhaps not. I have no idea which has a higher body count overall.

      How about serial killers? It's my understanding that the vast majority of them (in the U.S. at least) are some form of Christian, though I could be wrong about this. Should we include them here?

      What I do know is that there are scumbag murderers within EVERY religion. Perhaps Muslims are more likely to openly connect their acts to their religion, while Christian murders are less likely to, but again, that doesn't change the results of their actions.

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