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  •  No Democrat is though (1+ / 0-)
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    they'd literally have to ask generic D vs. generic R because Biden is for whatever reason not all that popular while Rubio and Christie are and Paul isn't, all on average of course. PPP usually shy away from those generic match ups because then they can't sell it in their press release to get more visibility.

    •  I don't agree w/all that (0+ / 0-)

      Biden has polled just fine in trial heats where he's included.  He polls pretty much as I'd expect of a generic Dem.

      And Rubio and Christie aren't popular, they're largely unknown.  Same goes for Rand Paul.  The only candidates on either side with serious name rec are Hillary and Biden, and Biden's more-or-less even favorables (perhaps more negative than positive in a majority of polls, but never by much) make him close to a generic Dem.  And of course all the other Dems are really generic Dems.

      I actually think the Democratic nominee is likely to be either Hillary or Biden.  Something would have to seriously derail Obama, and make him as despised as Bush, for rank-and-file Democrats to go with someone else IMO.

      45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 11:12:00 AM PDT

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      •  PPP at least consistently find him underwater (0+ / 0-)

        nationally. They find Christie and Rubio's favorables much higher than their unfavorables and both are known by at least half the electorate. There's a reason that nearly every time they poll the find Christie then Rubio then Paul doing successively worse against Clinton and that has to do with their relative popularity.

        And I don't disagree with your assessment that Clinton or Biden are likely nominees, but your original post was about gauging North Carolina's trend and the only way we could do that is with generic candidates, not ones who have established brands. It's one thing to want to know how Biden does, but he is certainly not Generic D at this point when they find him at 40/47 nationally.

        •  PPP finds most people underwater (0+ / 0-)

          PPP's polling results consistently find worse favorables for most candidates and elected officials of both parties.  This has been true for years.  To this day I don't know what to make of it, especially since PPP's last-minute trial heats are consistently accurate.  But the fact is they find much worse favorables for most pols than other pollsters find, even polling at the same time.

          45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

          by DCCyclone on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 08:06:30 PM PDT

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