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  •  I bought it because it was so good and I did not (1+ / 0-)
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    want to lose access.

    •  Yes, I could do that, but I've already read it. (3+ / 0-)
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      Still, having to pay year after year just for access to refer to that article...

      More importantly, though, is that it is such a critically important article for every American to understand. Having it publicly available for a short time was nice, but TIME should really reconsider putting this particular article behind a pay wall.

      We need good information like this widely disseminated if we're ever to get real health care reform.

      Among the recommendations is that lowering the age for Medicare would actually lower costs, as would allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

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      by YucatanMan on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 10:44:02 PM PDT

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      •  lowering the age would NOT (0+ / 0-)

        lower costs.

        Do you realize that 75% of the Part B premium  — that which covers doctors and all out of hospital stuff come out of general tax money?  Medicare is what is sinking the federal budget. There is no way it could be expanded. That would involve the government taking on 75% of the costs for all those additional people and it is not going to happen.

        Additionally Part A which covers hospitalization has a very high premium of its own if a person doesn't have sufficient individual work credits.

        Medicare is in a lot of trouble but the ACA is bringing costs down.

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        by samddobermann on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 03:47:21 AM PDT

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        •  Medicare is in trouble because we spend so much (7+ / 0-)

          on end of life care that other countries do not.  Also, so many people on Medicare have chronic illnesses that do not get  treatment until they are eligible for Medicare.  We need Medicare for all because Medicare has the best cost curve.  If we started coverage earlier, people would be healthier as they get older.

        •  Part B (5+ / 0-)

          sorry to correct you but part B Medicare costs me $146.00 a month.  Government charges for part B, comes off the SS monthly HUGE amt of $939.00 after a lifetime of very hard work!

        •  Nonsense (7+ / 0-)
          There is no way (Medicare) could be expanded.
          Sure there is.  A separate Medicare-for-All tax on ALL income would cost Americans much less than the present private insurance, employer insurance, and patient co-pay it would replace.
        •  actually, SDDobermann, that's WRONG. Costs drop as (4+ / 0-)
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          the pool grows in size and the risk per patient ratio decreases in size with younger people in the pool. What's happening now is that we have a pool full of geriatric patients many of whom have chronic conditions or conditions they could not afford to have treated before reaching the eligibility age.

          If instead the eligibility age became lower and the pool's concentration of persons who are ill and need a lot of care also became lower, costs would drop.

          What that means is people could get care before they hit the crisis stage or the retirement age. Either way the costs go down.

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          by BlackSheep1 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 09:19:10 AM PDT

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        •  You are looking at the cost of Medicare in (0+ / 0-)

          isolation.  

          Have you read the article?

          The argument is that the overall cost of healthcare would be lowered and our citizens be better served if Medicare was extended to lower age groups.

          Medicare costs itself may go up, but the overall national expenditure on health care, the author says, would go down.

          The more people within the Medicare system, the more costs are controlled.

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:29:38 PM PDT

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      •  Pay wall or not ... (1+ / 0-)
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        Google bitter pill why medical bills are killing us pdf

        We must drive the special interests out of politics.… There can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put an end to it will neither be a short not an easy task, but it can be done. -- Teddy Roosevelt

        by NoMoJoe on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 12:42:30 PM PDT

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