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  •  Elon Musk (4+ / 0-)
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    is that you?

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 06:58:50 PM PDT

    •  Heh™! (1+ / 0-)
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      Maj, Elon Musk doesn't need to pymp Space-X's accomplishments.

      That said, I'm wondering if Orbital Sciences might be using existing STS tech to enable them to build and launch heavy-lift stuff, like the Jupiter-Direct ship.

      Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

      by JeffW on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:04:36 PM PDT

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    •  I only wish I was Elon Musk. (2+ / 0-)
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      Then I'd drive a Tesla to work at a giant rocket factory run by 3,000 employees plotting humanity's expansion into the cosmos.  Still not at the point where he could do vice-versa and ride a rocket to the Tesla factory, but maybe some day!  :-)  Most...important...man...alive.

      I totally stand by my unit of space awesomeness.  The "milli-elon" is well-suited to the task of measuring technological space awesomeness.  Note that it's not a measure of work involved, just the awesomeness of the accomplishment.

      Democracy is a habit, not a circumstance.

      by Troubadour on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:24:04 PM PDT

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      •  Hey, I like the guy and all (2+ / 0-)
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        but you might want to turn the worship down just a notch.

        Unless he's got a warp drive in prototype somewhere I don't see humanity "expanding into the cosmos" with chemical rockets, no matter how advanced.

        We might get to Mars, but compared to Mars Antarctica is paradise and we're not exactly building cities there.

        If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

        by Major Kong on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:30:52 PM PDT

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        •  Antarctica's protected ground by UN treaty (0+ / 0-)

          and anything done there would still have environmental impacts on the rest of the world.  Mars give the prospect of building an entirely new world, and the resources to do it.

          Democracy is a habit, not a circumstance.

          by Troubadour on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:35:46 PM PDT

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          •  Antarctica was explored (3+ / 0-)
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            decades before the UN ever existed and nobody wanted to live there - for good reason.

            Yet it has normal gravity, a breathable atmosphere,  standard atmospheric pressure, abundant water and currently supports life.

            Even the most barren desert on earth is more habitable than Mars.

            Other than the coolness factor of saying "Hey we went there" I'm not sure what Mars has to offer as a habitat.

            If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

            by Major Kong on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 07:50:34 PM PDT

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            •  Mars offers a totally new start (0+ / 0-)

              in a totally new set of circumstances and environments that nowhere on Earth car replicate (there's nowhere on Earth with 38% g), to start entirely new societies that break away from the prejudices and ideologies of the past and try new things.  It offers more than enough water and air in the subsurface ices, not to mention as fuel.  And it's still close enough to the Sun for solar power to be practical, but there's no reason not to use nuclear either - and special windmills might work too.

              Democracy is a habit, not a circumstance.

              by Troubadour on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 08:12:02 PM PDT

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              •  Sure, there are reasons to go, but (1+ / 0-)
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                the Major makes a pretty good point here.

                Aside from the gravity, there are deserts full of abandoned mines on earth full of exciting resources, but short on the whole water thing. Antarctica even comes with the water.

                When you look at how much trouble it is to get and maintain people and supplies on Antarctica, it gives a fresh appreciation for the challenge of a martian colony.

                Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

                by elfling on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 01:01:02 AM PDT

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                •  Main reason to go (1+ / 0-)
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                  As Stephen Hawking has recommended, we need to prepare for the potentially catastrophic consequences of global warming. Redundancy is the mechanism used to avert such situations in computer world & it's a robust philosophy that reduces the possiblilty of human extinction.

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