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  •  very postmodern. i don't get how you gleam that (3+ / 0-)
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    Larsstephens, Avila, awesumtenor

    from what i wrote. i also do not remember anything about a child and adoption issues. do remind me. i care about social reality and working towards the common good.

    as a working class black man I do not have the luxury of pretending that race does not matter. I also love how folks deeply invested in whiteness and white supremacy would dare to suggest that a black man, or other person of color, is somehow preoccupied with race.

    Very white privilege laced behavior on your part. Liberal racism is one hell of a drug. Seek treatment.

    •  I don't know, (1+ / 0-)
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      Be Skeptical

      When Chauncey says:

      "Arabs that are a caricature out of a bad 1980's action movie, and the media and conservatives are willfully blind to white domestic terrorists in the United States, the preferred tactical choice is a clear one."

      Is he suggesting what Philly says he is?

      "the bombing happened because the White elite left the back door open because "they didn't see these two "white guys" coming".  

      Bolding was mine.

      I'm afraid that my signature won't match the mood of my comment.

      by heybuddy on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:07:29 PM PDT

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    •  In your article, (2+ / 0-)
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      "The Fear of Black Men". You shared joy with your cousins adoption of a black child out of foster care. Yet you became melancholy on your return home because of the challenges this child will face. Despite the fact that he was adopted into a household of two academics in a middle-class neighborhood. Perhaps the child will not face as many challenges as you did.

      Of course I would posit that we all, on this board, care about social realities and working towards the common good. I would also go a step further and argue that there is not one progressive minority in this country who thinks race doesn't matter.

      As to your assertion that this folk (me) is somehow deeply invested in "whiteness" (not even sure that's a word) and "white supremacy", for the record, I am Mexican. I do not offer, nor can I give any investment into any sort of ruling elite - white or otherwise.

       I'll ignore your third paragraph that is so cheap it doesn't warrant a response - except to say that working for the past 10 years in behavioral health - I think I've pretty much got you diagnosed correctly.

      Finally, my only point was that you/we need to look beyond the simple explanation of race as a factor as to why these two "whites" somehow slipped past thousands of spectators to drop two bags unnoticed. Surely if they were black or brown - someone would have pulled a gun on them, right? Absurd.

      •  you can be hispanic and invested in whiteness (2+ / 0-)
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        Larsstephens, Avila

        we see that all the time with black conservatives and of course folks like george zimmerman. hispanic is a cultural/ethnic marker and not a racial one.

        please provide a link to where i said that about ir adoption. i could care less; my concern has been that kids have safe homes; i do have a concern about how mixed race kids where the parent who is of color (especially for white moms) may very well have identity issues. there is research by psychologists and others which can attest to that fact.

        i don't recall writing something with that title--was it a trigger or something for you?

        Whiteness is a very real word. The dictionary,, and assorted other online resources are your friend there.

        "Surely if they were black or brown - someone would have pulled a gun on them, right? Absurd."

        Who made that claim? Don't be so reductionist and simple minded. Also, do not deny the power of racial profiling and "Arabphobia" in the U.S. and elsewhere.

        The empirical data and history are most certainly not on your side here.

        "I think I've pretty much got you diagnosed correctly."

        Mighty "white" of you. I hope you have better clinical skills than that. I can diagnose you as a member of the colored class who enables white supremacy. Fanon would not be surprised. Surrender is a common coping mechanism.

        •  lol you know, I laughed at the end of this.... (2+ / 0-)
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          heybuddy, Be Skeptical

          You are one of the kinds of people I went to school with at Cal who were so smart, intelligent and who were destined for greatness in the world - but for the huge chip on their shoulder. At the obsession with their own specific relation to people of the same race, whites, Latinos, Asians. In a sense, they could never identify, sympathize, empathize with any movement except to figure out their own identity. For which I don't think you find any comfort.

          I am being reductionist because that is the implication you are making. That had they been black, latino or perhaps "more Muslim looking" (whatever that would mean), that they would have been more easily identified or even stopped. That is the exact implication you are making. There is no evidence to support that.

          And in re-reading your 9th paragraph - I love how you have dissected how I am enabling white supremacy. My clinical skills are first rate and are spot on given this paragraph.

          See, I can only assume that the latent hostility you feel to White people, whiteness or other "coloreds" enabling white strategic power, was somehow caused by something traumatic in your early childhood or formative years - an arrest, divorce, death. At the college level, these impulses are manifested in such organizations which promote the type of divisiveness you describe. The embrace and promotion of multi-culturalism. Of course it would have to be that - and why not? Multi-culturalism supposes the dominance of one race or way of life. And its that dominance that spurs you on. Yet you don't really look for a solution as much as you decry it and other coloreds for perpetrating its existence. In that way, you really aren't looking towards pluralism. Pretty sad.

          And I am mistaken. It was not you that wrote the article. My apologies.

          •  if you cannot get the basics of referencing (2+ / 0-)
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            Larsstephens, Avila

            a piece here on the Daily Kos correct, your other skills are very much in doubt. you are good fun though. keep on pretending with your "clinical skills" and diagnoses online. what you describe are more the projections of a racist onto the Other than anything else. that is the joke no? As I said, Fanon would have fun with you a great deal.

            have fun with your trolling. as I said to others, I am not interested in wasting time feeding trolls online.

            your last paragraph is rich with the white right/white supremacist talking points we have seen as of late. the strategic cyber racism campaign of the white nationalists and their allies in the digital age has been exposed. i for one am not playing anymore. deflection? distraction? and derailing are the MO of the white right online.

            no stories in your profile? that is a dead give away.

            white victimology and the white racial frame are one hell of a drug again.

            •  Ah yes... (1+ / 0-)
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              The old trick of catching one mistake and then running with it. And since you pretty much ignored my last paragraph, I can only assume that an unresolved trauma did occur for which you are plowing into literature to try and solve. Kudos to you I suppose - its a never-ending journey trying to find oneself.

              White right/white supremacist
              strategic cyber racism campaign
              white nationalists and their allies
              white victimology
              white racial frame
              the white right online.

              I think this list says alot about your mindset.

              We've pretty much run the course here but I will say that not everyone (including minorities) is part - either consciously or subconsciously - of the so called White ruling establishment. Nor should you lump people who do not ascribe to your philosophies on race, self, multi-culturalism or social construct - into the White establishment or even perpetuating its rule.

              I don't have a profile. And? Is that mandatory? Anyway, good luck.

              •  I think this list says alot about your mindset. (0+ / 0-)

                Ha. yes, that I am pretty well read in the literature on race and social inequality in the U.S. and elsewhere.

                More projection: "Kudos to you I suppose - its a never-ending journey trying to find oneself."

                Yes, you are. A person of color who has a healthy sense of self-worth and identity and who has the critical tools to discuss race, confront white privilege and white supremacy, and speaking articulately about it, is a threat to many people.

                You are a troll who is pretending to be some type of clinician when in fact you running some type of cyber racism con game. Very time consuming. Why spend your energy that way? I know that you are a white victimologist; but are you receiving some type of psychic wage from playing this game?

                •  Nope. (0+ / 0-)

                  I'm just a simple guy that doesn't see race as you do. I mean, its pretty clear that you're the troll that pretty much shouts down anyone that may disagree with YOUR idea of race and your dreaded list of.......

                  White right/white supremacist
                  strategic cyber racism campaign
                  white nationalists and their allies
                  white victimology
                  white racial frame
                  the white right online.

                  And so you quote/cite Franz Fanon and other authors as if they were even relevant in today's academia - particularly in the US.

                  Do you actually have the critical tools to discuss race, confront white privilege and white supremacy? I think what you have discussed so far is relevant only to your theories of race. As such, you and your ideas are really a threat to no one.

                  It would be best if you were to get outside the library (or cafe), take your nose out of those books, and bring your energies to working towards identifying practical solutions for solving wage inequality; or reducing disparities in health care; or towards reducing incidences of HIV in Afro-Am MSM populations.

                  Certainly working in a county mental health system has its drawbacks - but I'm trying to do my part by working on practical solutions, not theory.

                  And I have all the time in the world in having a healthy debate on every article you write henceforth. :)

          •  If Chauncey couldn't nurse his obsession with race (0+ / 0-)

            he would dissolve into a pool of tepid tea.

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