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  •  It was not a filibuster (3+ / 0-)
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    Harry Reid set the standard that all amendments to the bill required 60 yay votes.   He did this because he did not want any Republican amendments to be added to the bill.  When the Manchin-Toomey "bipartisan" compromise failed to get 60 votes, Reid pulled the bill.

    h/t Chuck Todd Twitter feed  http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    •  TC - thank you (0+ / 0-)

      There is a big misunderstanding regarding this bill here at DKOS.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 06:32:11 PM PDT

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    •  Whatever standard he set for amendments (0+ / 0-)

      the bill itself was filibustered. The watered down background check amendment was only created to try and avoid the filibuster they knew was coming. If Reid hadn't wussed out on filibuster reform in the first place, a strong gun control bill could have passed with Democratic votes alone. Now if you're saying some of the Democrats wouldn't have voted for it, then you're making my point that Harry Reid is a weak, ineffective Majority Leader.

      •  The bill was not filibustered (0+ / 0-)

        I already explained this and provided supporting evidence.  Reid is ineffectual for sure.  Hell, if you explained what really happened in your diary, it would make Reid look much worse.  He tried to play parliamentary games, and was hoisted on his own petard.  

        A filibuster is a tactic to block cloture, that did not occur in this case.  Reid set the standard for all proposed amendments at 60 votes, his amendments did not pass, and he pulled the bill.

        •  Would he have thought he had to do that (0+ / 0-)

          if he had instituted filibuster reform? It seems to me that there were more than a dozen Republicans threatening to filibuster the bill right up to the day before the vote.

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