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  •  For someone who does a lot of reading of history (9+ / 0-)

    You have a lot to learn... And tough if you're too proud to admit it. You might consider that the rest of the commenters in these threads have read a lot more, learned a lot more, and understand a lot more than you do.

    You'd mentioned up-thread that you'd hoped to be a lawyer, so hopefully, you will attend a lot of lectures on the subject.

    If this guy pleads guilty, there will essentially be no trial - just as you wish. But, he has that option.

    And yes, laws do define just what our country is, what we stand for, who we are... The fact that people break these laws drives home that fact even more. We don't tolerate law-breakers in our society, and punish them accordingly (or at least ought to). When laws are changed to say... outlaw slavery... that indeed changes our society in a big way. I might have over-stated that it is "only" laws that define our society (many other things contribute as well), but our laws are  huge part of it.

    If our system of justice is simply left up to "what you can imagine", we're in a pretty sorry state. That's how things worked in the middle-ages. I hope that we've come some way from that.

    Freedom isn't free. So quit whining and pay your taxes.

    by walk2live on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:04:00 PM PDT

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    •  The fact is that the Founding Fathers (6+ / 0-)

      Added the Fifth Amendment to the Bill Of Rights specifically because they had come out of a world where the actions that GOTG is advocating were acceptable, and they knew from experience what the consequences of that were.

      I'm not advocating a trial for the bomber out of sympathy, or because (in GOTG's words) "I'm OK with him blowing peoples legs off", but because I'm concerned not just for my rights, but the rights of my children and my children's children. Once a fundamental right has become something that can be abrogated by fiat for anyone we don't like, then none of us are safe.

    •  You did not 'over-state' it in the slightest, in (3+ / 0-)
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      my opinion. I would like to offer a slight annotation to your comment. I think even if Tsarnaev pleads 'gulty,' there must still be a trial where a judge determines that he is mentally competent to understand the charges and enter a plea to them, that his plea is not coerced and that the evidence actually supports a plea of guilty. It's pretty much a formality, as you note, but still a part of 'Due Process.'

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