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  •  Remember, they may not have known the hazard (2+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, tacet

    It seems possible nobody knew there was ammonium nitrate there.

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    by Catte Nappe on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 03:30:11 PM PDT

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    •  Nobody knew? (4+ / 0-)

      When our department draws up pre-fire plans, we talk to the folks in charge of each establishment about the risks there, and get permission to visit the site for a practice run.

      There's a difference between "regulatory authorities weren't told" and "nobody knew".

    •  That's what I'm thinking too (3+ / 0-)
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      dotdash2u, a2nite, Catte Nappe

      Would they have been using water if they knew that there was ammonium nitrate there?

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 03:38:35 PM PDT

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      •  Water is ok to use but not in a way (2+ / 0-)
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        skohayes, Catte Nappe

        that pushes the stuff into organic or combustible materials. Like a fire hose shoving some onto a burning pallet. Oxidizes rapidly with that action- in other words, explodes. Water to "flood" is ok. See link for MSDS in above post of mine.

        When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

        by Havoth on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:44:02 PM PDT

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    •  Hey Catte, see my post above with links (1+ / 0-)
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      Catte Nappe

      from Wfaa.com

          Of greatest concern was up to 270 tons of ammonium nitrate, which the owner had properly reported to state authorities. Reporting the existence of ammonium nitrate is important because of the chemical's well-known potential to explode...By itself, when properly ventilated, the chemical is considered safe. So what caused the chemical to explode in West?

          Explosion and pipeline safety expert Don Deaver said the likely trigger is the fire that raged just feet away from the storage building on Wednesday night.

      When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

      by Havoth on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:40:45 PM PDT

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