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  •  I like the way you think, dissidentpoet! (1+ / 0-)
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    This is a compelling argument, IMHO.  And I especially like this:

    the angry mob, who would see it one way, and the royal snob, who would see it comepletely differently.  
    "The angry mob and the royal snob"--how perfectly that sums it up!

    Thanks for stopping by. Have a piece of cake, there's still a lot left.  It's good, too.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 05:05:24 PM PDT

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      Diana in NoVa, Batya the Toon, Brecht

      it was a great class.  made me think a lot.

      another example is romeo & juliet.  when juliet's dad is planning her marriage to paris, he calls for several chefs and this huge amount of food, that he nonchalantly lists.  seen from today, no big deal.  to a royal, it just sounds like a good father or lord.

      but romeo and juliet was first performed right after a fierce famine.  anyone just calmly calling for all that food, most of which would go to waste, is NEVER going to be seen as anything but a villain to a hungry and under-paid crowd.  seriously, if you see that scene from the viewpoint of near-starving and recently starving people, it changes the rest of the play.

      plus, romeo's betrayal of the apothecary is terrible.  romeo goes to the apothecary (like a pharmacist) to get the poison.  now, it is illegal PUNISHABLE BY DEATH for the apothecary to give romeo this poison.  however, romeo, in a monologue, laughs and says that he will use the apothecary's poverty & hunger to get what he wants. he mocks and ridicules him, and eventually asks if he'd rather be noble and starve or break the law and eat.  the apothecary gives him the poison.

      then, when romeo is found dead, he has a note explaining where he got the poison.  which means he condemns the apothecary to death.  the only reason is because he feels that the apothecary breaking the law means he should die, even though he is the one who got him to break the law, and he only did it because he was starving.

      "I'm awfully bitter these days because my parents were slaves..." --Nina Simone

      by dissidentpoet on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 05:21:25 PM PDT

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      •  Well, that's less than admirable behavior on (1+ / 0-)
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        Romeo's part.  I like the way you look at matters from the viewpoint of what the poor or working class would have thought.  That's all too often overlooked.

        "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

        by Diana in NoVa on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 05:32:26 PM PDT

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