Skip to main content

View Diary: The Day America Stopped Hiring (214 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  so the answer was medicare for all.... (4+ / 0-)

    and the abandonment of the inefficient, private insurance market. What's needed is a dramatic expansion of a permanent welfare state that meets everyone's basic needs from cradle to grave. As you admit above, there quite simply is not enough work to do for everyone thanks to automation. Now is the time for bold initiatives; the elimination of poverty and the rise of a true welfare state. A 30 hr workweek and retirement at 50, maybe earlier, which will allow untold numbers, who don'tmake it beyond their 50's, to at least have a few years away from the oppression of the workplace. Even better, allow our rights to extend to the workplace, for as Richard Wolfe argues, it is folly to speak of rights that we must give up for the majority of our lives spent at work. Much can and should be done.

    •  Again (0+ / 0-)

      That might be good policy, or there might be ever more unintended consequences.

      Simple foreseeable unintended consequences are that your plan sends economic messages to people to have more children when the market seems to suggest that this is the last thing anyone should want. For example, I would argue that at minimum any family that can't economically support a child should not have one.

      Or, there may be resentment from those who work to those who do not which may manifest itself in surprising ways.

      Or, we cannot afford such a welfare state and companies (that ultimately pay all the bills) simply pack up and leave rather than pay for it. You could nationalize these companies, but that comes with its own problems.

      You are suggesting a control economy in which Intelligent People sit around conference tables and determine what is best for everyone and how much to take from people who are truly producing goods and services of value. While I agree with some social welfare plans, I don't think you can predict all outcomes.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Sat May 04, 2013 at 10:20:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  well, we already know what we can predict (0+ / 0-)

        with our current path....capitalism is poison. Let's feed and shelter everyone, because we can, and see what happens when millions are free to use their full intellectual potential instead of slaving away in starvation. The best way to prevent overpopulation? Educate women. it works, with a proven track record. You are stil thinking in archaic terms of companies and bills; since money is a fiction created by states out of whole cloth. we don't really need to worry about who pays the bills; there doesn't have to be any bills. Paying bills is merely symbolic. Companies would be operated by worker coops. Imagine no shareholders. I urge you to start reading Richard Wolfe. I appreciate your thoughtful response, it's no secret that i disagree with most of what your write. As for a control economy, we haveone now  , but the folks in control have rigged it to favor a small group of plutocrats and fatcats.I suggest we replace that with democracy.....

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site