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  •  Good! (3+ / 0-)
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    The Republicans have spent decades whining about "big-spending liberals" and "big government". Let them explain how this random, ill-conceived cut is the fault of the big spending liberal in the White House. They can't do it without lying, of course, and they're never shy about resorting to lies. Obama should easily be able to cut them to ribbons in any debate on this point. We think government is necessary. Let John Galt be their air traffic controller.

    The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

    by Korkenzieher on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 11:22:32 AM PDT

    •  I don't think we'll get such a debate. Instead ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... unfortunately, the pain needs to start being real to people who are in a position to cause change.

      Government contractors, for example. People back home, constituents who are furloughed. The privileged and titled who have to wait longer for their airplane connections, even though they fly in the front of the plane.

      Obama will win debates on this hands down, but there won't be much of a meaningful dialog until the media covers the issues a heckuva lot more accurately than the 18-second he-says/they-say, now-to-the-weather kin of coverage. Or until movers and shakers feel the inconvenience, the pain, the cost of the sequester, and convince their elected officials that they must change the situation.

      The White House can't make Congress change. As in the old joke about the psychiatrist and the light bulb ... like the broken bulb, Congress has to want to change.

      2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

      by TRPChicago on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:42 AM PDT

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      •  The only hope here... (2+ / 0-)
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        Faito, Korkenzieher

        ...and it's a thin reed to cling to - is that this will inconvenience the villagers a bit.  When David Brooks and Candy Crowley find that half their day is now spent waiting for ATC delays, maybe eventually they will come to appreciate that we all depend on basic government services, and that might get translated into their spin.

        Right wingers everywhere are already howling about this as some sort of a trick by Obama.  What a difficult thing it must be to admit that the guvmint actually does stuff you want, and when you basically defund those things, you can't get them anymore.

        Who could ever have imagined such a thing?

        What we're going to see next is a move to restore funding just for air traffic control - sequester for you, not so much for those that matter.

        •  Actually, I think ALL sides imagine that ... (0+ / 0-)

          ... and work it for all it's worth.

          I don't know of anyone - except one desperate Presidential candidate last year - who does not take every tax advantage they can. And then some. (Like the guy who used to brag that if the IRS doesn't audit you every year, you're overpaying.) Who passes up subsidies or - with enough money and political swagger - who doesn't hire lobbyists to create subsidies and other guvmint advantages through legislation and IRS rulings.

          I.e. legislate a requirement to use a safety device that you have patented. Create or alter a rule to slip in your business practice but not others similar but not identical to you (unless you need them politically and are willing to forgo the market advantage). Craft an exculpatory provision in a regulation as the price for not tying it up in years of litigation. Contracts that exploit the propensity of government departments  - Pentagon, anyone? - to change specs, thereby causing opportunities for rebids which only particular suppliers can meet in the time frame.

          Face it. Those who criticize government the most are a heckuva lot more adept than the rest of us in using government to their advantage.

          2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

          by TRPChicago on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 01:12:07 PM PDT

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