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  •  If the President is as helpless (0+ / 0-)

    as this diary implies, why does it matter which party holds the office?

    The President doesn't have the primary responsibility for this failure--of course that's on the assholes who voted no--but there's plenty of blame to go around. Mr. Obama bears some of it. He was conspicuously silent when Presidential arm-twisting really would have been effective: the battle for filibuster reform.

    When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

    by PhilJD on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 02:35:51 PM PDT

    •  Why does it matter which party holds office? (5+ / 0-)

      That's why.

      If you say "gullible" real slow, it sounds like "green beans."
      "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." -- Debbie Wasserman Schultz

      by weatherdude on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 02:52:45 PM PDT

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      •  That's a classic non sequitur. Obviously (0+ / 0-)

        it makes an emotional difference which party holds the Presidency, which is all that posting Shrub's picture speaks to. You're answering the wrong question though, whether through disingenuousness or befuddlement I really can't say.

        I'll spell it out, since apparently if beginning my comment wasn't sufficient. I'm suggesting precisely the opposite of what you seem to think I said: that of course it matters who is President, because of course the President--the most powerful individual in human history-- is anything but a powerless figurehead. Ironically, "helpless figurehead" is the position implicitly argued by Mr. Obama's most ardent supporters... when it suits their purpose.

        We see this dynamic on DKos over and over: Mr. Obama merits the lion's share of praise for anything good that transpires, but any bad outcome is solely the responsibility of Congress. I'm confident that if this bill had passed the Senate, the applause here for the President's "bold leadership" would be deafening.

        Thanks though for the reminder that George Bush was able to enact quite a lot of his agenda.

        When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

        by PhilJD on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 03:27:30 PM PDT

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        •  So you think he didn't show leadership (0+ / 0-)

          on this issue?

          “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

          by skohayes on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 03:53:50 PM PDT

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          •  Actually, I think he DID show leadership (0+ / 0-)

            on this issue. Unfortunately, it was too late to affect the outcome.

            The time for Presidential arm-twisting was during the filibuster fight, because this vote and others like it were all-too-easy to foresee.

            When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

            by PhilJD on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 03:59:26 PM PDT

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