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  •  More than likely (3+ / 0-)
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    Definitely wasn't trying to underestimate (or estimate at all) the backlash that seems to come after these kinds of victories. I'm afraid we'll see backlash, too. The situation in France is particularly frightening.

    I don't mind if you're straight. Just don't flaunt it in public.

    by Chrislove on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:01:37 PM PDT

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    •  "For every action, there is an equal (5+ / 0-)

      and opposite..."

      A lot of people, in the 1970s, thought equal rights had been "won" for women.

      Uh, no.

      There are milestones. But we can never forget for even a moment that it's an ongoing, open-ended struggle.

      It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

      by karmsy on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:07:34 PM PDT

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      •  For sure. (4+ / 0-)
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        And full marriage equality, while important, certainly isn't the end of the struggle, by a long shot.

        I don't mind if you're straight. Just don't flaunt it in public.

        by Chrislove on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:10:24 PM PDT

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      •  Not to mention voting rights. (1+ / 0-)
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        “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

        by ahumbleopinion on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:42:15 PM PDT

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        •  Mass participation in the electoral (0+ / 0-)

          process is a terrifying possibility to those who have benefited handsomely in recent decades by ensuring that most people didn't vote.

          It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

          by karmsy on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:46:24 PM PDT

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      •  to a first order equal rights were won (1+ / 0-)
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        for women in the 1970s.

        professions opened, we started recruiting women to be
        astronauts,  lawyers, judges, doctors,,,,

        divorce laws were normalized, gender roles were cut from statutes. Credit was made available.  

        a ramp where 20% of the senate is now female.

        There was a generation of fighting but it was more about paycheck fairness, benefits for medical issues, maternity leave, not that anyone who got screwed out of a decade of fair pay doesn't have a real grievance, but, doors became open as a matter of course.

        Women got suffrage in the 20s, they became a national political force in the 90s.  

        •  Then there was the whole, emergent (1+ / 0-)
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          social trend of women having careers and making money, and yet still having to come home and do unpaid work, a lot of it.

          Discrimination persists in subtle and very destructive ways.

          It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

          by karmsy on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 09:05:50 PM PDT

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          •  subtle is a different matter (3+ / 0-)
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            and class,

            the world looks a lot different to a meg whitman,
            a sonia sotomayor or a jenna bush then to some
            hispanic immigrant female working cleaning hotel rooms

            •  I swear, Meg Whitman had all this money (0+ / 0-)

              to throw at the governor's race, and she still lost by a landslide. Why? She was inexperienced at political campaigning, obviously. She was also trying hard to appeal to a notoriously sexist voting demographic, one that castigates visible, prominent women who aren't sex objects.

              Meg Whitman was a frumpy, dumpy middle-aged plain Jane, with no pretensions to any other standard. She may have done much better if the voting demographic she was trying so hard with, was less preoccupied with women's looks.

              Of course her physical appearance was going to cost her.

              It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

              by karmsy on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 12:34:31 PM PDT

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