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  •  Jeff - given that NBC was for sale by GE in 2009 (5+ / 0-)
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    It would have made a great deal of sense for the conservatives to have had someone like the Koch Bros buy it in 2009. They could have divested everything but the broadcast and cable properties and completely changed NBC to another Fox. Now that it is part of Comcast, it isn't for sale.

    It is interesting that the Koch Bros are eager to buy the Tribune Co's stable of newspapers. I understand that News Corp is also a bidder. In any event it looks like those properties are going into more conservative hands.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:37:52 PM PDT

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    •  Because It's Not Liberal (2+ / 0-)
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      One good answer is "because NBC is satisfactory to Conservatives already". Why waste money on something General Electric molded into an adequate player in the propaganda mill, when it can buy something not yet properly processed.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 06:23:34 AM PDT

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      •  DocG - I don't think that was the reason (0+ / 0-)

        I just think they hadn't come to the decision that they should use their collective wealth to buy media properties yet. In addition the entire NBC Universal purchase was a big number, $30 billion which was more than they could afford, or were willing to spend.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 07:09:24 AM PDT

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        •  Doc G's point makes better sense than yours (0+ / 0-)

          No need to weigh them on your truthimeter

          I am a leaf on the wind - i hover, twirl, float,
          Weightless, frictionless, I fly

          by chmood on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 07:17:22 AM PDT

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          •  chmood - given that NBC owns MSNBC (0+ / 0-)

            I think the Koch's of the world would very much like to change the format and on air personnel and have a second Fox News. I don't think the wingers would agree at all with DocG that they had no interest because NBC was already conservative.

            "let's talk about that"

            by VClib on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 09:43:18 AM PDT

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            •  Didn't say yours was untrue... (0+ / 0-)

              I am a leaf on the wind - i hover, twirl, float,
              Weightless, frictionless, I fly

              by chmood on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 11:04:13 AM PDT

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            •  I find it interesting that MSNBC began its life as (2+ / 0-)
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              a copy of CNN, a milquetoast neutral no-waves de facto conservative, as is most of US politics.

              It changed NOT because of any ideological change in its ownership, but because it didn't get ratings, couldn't sell airtime, and had to try a new schtick. And the schtick it hit upon was to become the alter-Fox, and gather up any viewers that Fox wasn't getting. That formula worked, and they've stuck with it. Had it NOT worked, MSNBC would have dropped it like a hot potato and gone on to something else.

              I find it amusing to see all the big corporate-conspiracy theories about how progressive views are banned from the air.  The simple reality is that progressive views aren't on the air because we are a tiny minority even within our own party and nobody but us wants to watch or listen to us.  When we DO get on the air, we die quickly for lack of ratings. I find it doubly amusing that the rightwingnuts had the very same excuse back when THEY were a tiny minority that was ignored by THEIR own party--"the liberal media hates us boo hoo hoo".  THEY responded by organizing effectively and becoming a disciplined political power that captured a major party and dominated American politics for 40 years.  We, on the other hand, prefer to cry in our beers because the big evil media hates us boo hoo hoo. We should learn a lesson from the nutballs.

              It may be comforting for us to believe that everyone loves us, everyone agrees with us, and the only reason we don't win like gangbusters is because of the big corporate conspiracy to keep us off the air---but the sad reality is that nobody CARES what we say, because progressives are nothing but a tiny ignored minority who don't HAVE any consistently-accepted message to put out. Even our own goddamn party ignores us, so why should the media pay us any attention?

              And that is entirely our fault and no one else's. The whole "the conservative media hates us !!!" is just an excuse. An excuse that doesn't help us.

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