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  •  I don't understand this argument. (1+ / 0-)
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    Because it's legal (and because it benefits you directly as a shareholder), it's cool if Apple dodges the Tax Man.  It's a societal good for Apple to not pay its fair share of taxes.  But because the US government doesn't spend 100% of the revenue it brings in in the wisest manner -- never mind that the manner is completely OK under the law, which is the same standard you hold Apple to -- it doesn't deserve to be funded.  Heck, you also referred to taxes as "laudable donations".

    Why the double standard?

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Clarke's Third Law

    by The Technomancer on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 01:16:59 PM PDT

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    •  Double standards is what you subscribe to, (0+ / 0-)

      not me. You don't like Corporations very much; that's pretty clear. And you don't like it when a public Company deftly avoids paying more tax than is required. The US government isn't "unwise"; it's pretty much a force for evil. It's pretty corrupt. It doesn't spend money for the good of the people. So I would rather not feed a monster like that. The government, if it merely stopped pouring money into the pockets of defense contractors, agribusiness, and hedge fund managers, would easily have enough money to fund its operations. So I have to wonder: why the double standard? Why is the problem not a voracious and corrupt government rather than a publicly traded Company trying to serve the interests of its shareholders who after all a just ordinary people like myself?

      For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

      by Anne Elk on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 01:25:14 PM PDT

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      •  I don't have a problem with corporations. (1+ / 0-)
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        I get paid a comfortable salary by one.  I've worked for quite a few in my career.  I plan to start my own someday.  I don't plan on setting up a Double Irish, nor will I be fearful of having shareholders sue me because I didn't.  I even work in the tech industry, which is where a large numbers of tax dodges like this occur.

        I pay my fair share in taxes.  Corporations should as well.

        Like you, I don't agree with how the government spends every single dollar it receives.  But you're making the argument that because it's not 100% perfect, that it shouldn't get funded at all.  I'm not the one that's stated that what Apple has done is A-OK because it is legal.  I've never stated that I'm in favor of legal abuses of rights like our government has done.

        You, however, are in favor of one entity doing something immoral under the law (likely because you personally benefit from it), and against another entity doing things that are legal under the same set of laws.

        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Clarke's Third Law

        by The Technomancer on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 01:36:57 PM PDT

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