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  •  That older brother was a bitter, criminally minded (12+ / 0-)

    loser that seemed to feel the world owed him something and didn't follow through.

    He seemed to have anger issues.

    This isn't a middle east problem, it's a violent criminal problem.

    I find this diary to be offensive in the extreme.

    I blog about my daughter with autism at her website

    by coquiero on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 03:00:15 PM PDT

    •  So I take it you are dismissing reports of (0+ / 0-)

      what the surviving Tsarnaev brother is actually saying?

      •  It's an excuse (8+ / 0-)

        frequently invoked by people with anger issues such as the older Tsarnaev brother.

        People use their religion as an excuse for anger and hatred.  All the time.

        I blog about my daughter with autism at her website

        by coquiero on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 03:03:41 PM PDT

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        •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm frequently frustrated by the naive understanding of human motivation (when it comes to extreme acts) that's expressed around here.  People often don't accurately or fully express, or even know, what motivates them...so their claims have to be evaluated critically.  This extends to the Tsarnaevs, to people who listen to Rush and then blow up abortion clinics, and all sorts of others.  

          The only terrorist in recent memory whose version of why he did what he did (something awful) seemed totally credible to me is Paul Hill.

          You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

          by Rich in PA on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 06:25:56 AM PDT

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      •  Mr Tsarnaev (4+ / 0-)
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        has a reason to offer information that is useful to him and/or helpful to whatever he believes his "cause" is (and his cause could be anything from an affiliation with AQ to simple self-preservation. I'm not speculating on that.)  

        I'm not accusing anyone of lying or commit perjury. I'm saying that what folks offer in certain circumstances tends to be biased based on their experiences and what they believe.  What they don't offer is also colored by their worldview.  A good example of this is the boys' mother. I think her life as a Chechen and an attorney in a police state, then as a refugee, makes her really believe the things she says -- things that most Americans think are "crazy talk." But she has that bias based on her life.  

        We don't yet know what the younger Mr Tsarnaev's mindset is. So we can't really assume anything about his statements without independent evaluation.

        One should be very careful of believing anything that the alleged bomber is saying at this point. It is all subject to investigation and confirmation.

        What he's saying may be 100% accurate. It may be 100% untrue. It may be 100% what he believes is true, but 75% not verifiable because his view of the world is skewed.

        At this point, we don't have enough facts.

        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 04:46:23 PM PDT

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        •  I grant you there is a possibility that laying it (2+ / 0-)
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          on Iraq and Afghanistan is self-serving, perhaps a position arrived at after the fact to justify a decision already committed to psychologically for which Iraq and Afghanistan played no role.

          But I also know that we don't get to go around the world blowing up other people's kids and families for the dodgiest of reasons and flimsiest of pretexts (in the case of Iraq, for outright lies) and then be all shocked that they're seriously pissed off about it.

          Still, your caution is well put and quite a propos to the circumstances.

          •  Yup (4+ / 0-)
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            self-serving
            And therefore, in my opinion, a diary juxtaposing the Boston Marathon Bombing with military actions in the Middle East does not serve this community nor you well at this point.

            If a connection is established, then you'll be able to publish any diaries that you've drafted. But if not, then you'll be glad that you remained cautious.

            CNN should have proved to all of us that being in front of the story but being wrong not only doesn't do anyone good but does actually can do harm.

            If you want to write diatribes about military action, there is an gracious audience for that here. Even most who are supporters of the President don't like drones, for example.

            But conflating events without evidence just hurts your credibility.  

            I dunno. Just my two cents. That, plus $3.84 can get you a venti latte.  Don't forget to tip your friendly barrista.

            :)

            © grover


            So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

            by grover on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 05:16:42 PM PDT

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            •  Well, for the record, Salon.com first reported the (1+ / 0-)
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              ostensible connection between the bombing and Iraq - Afghanistan in the minds of the Brothers Tsarnaev. So unless Salon is deliberately mis-reporting what Tsarnaev is saying, his words are "evidence" of a sort. (Whether one chooses to give credence to that evidence is an entirely different matter.)

              Are we simply supposed to let Salon.com report as it will without comment? That does not seem to serve the community very well either.

            •  but it's not far-fetched (0+ / 0-)

              Your caution is worthy. The kid has every reason to make it out to be a political thing. But the diarist is pointing out that it's a credible scenario, all the same.

              All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

              by subtropolis on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 09:13:50 PM PDT

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    •  This comment is reminiscent of Sen. Bill Frist's (0+ / 0-)

      diagnosis of Terri Schiavo — via videotape.

      Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

      by Big River Bandido on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 03:11:11 PM PDT

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        •  A diagnosis of mental state (0+ / 0-)

          of someone the commenter has only read about in news reports has no credible basis.  Even if the commenter is credentialed as a psychotherapist, his/her comments would have no credibility because they were not based on any examination of the patient.  

          Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

          by Big River Bandido on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 04:41:27 PM PDT

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