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  •  As far as the oil sands development goes, (0+ / 0-)

    this poll from last September is in direct contradiction to your claim, to wit:

    A majority of Canadians support the development of the oilsands, a new poll has found.

    The Montreal Economic Institute had Leger Marketing poll Canadians from coast to coast for their opinions on the country's oil industry.

    Most respondents (72%) said they have a favourable view of developing the oilsands and think the best approach is to develop the resource while limiting the environmental impact. Support for this position is greatest in Alberta, where 85% think it's the best approach, and lowest in Quebec, where 67% are in favour.

    There is no environmentally friendly way to extract that oil and Canadians are smart enough to know that, and while it is not unusual for the U.S. to throw caution to the wind when it comes to environmentally damaging energy extraction, the government and the people of Canada do not have such a reprehensible history of environmental destruction in pursuit of the almighty dollar, Canadian or U.S.

    I'm not trying to pit people against people, I'm trying to understand how so many Canadian citizens can basically look the other way while huge tracts of pristine arboreal forest, the birthright of every Canadian, is permanently and irrevocably destroyed.

    We need our neighbors to the north to save us from ourselves and in the process, save themselves as well, and Canadian citizens are not nearly so powerless as are the citizens of Nigeria.

    Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense. Carl Sagan

    by sjburnman on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 11:03:02 PM PDT

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    •  Your poll is from last September so with all the (2+ / 0-)
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      protesting that has happened in between it's no longer valid. I don't trust just any poll, because our government and industry are putting millions into propaganda promoting the Tar Sands.

      My poll has 48% disapproval of tar sands. It's in my diary linked above.

      I live in a district that is turning Green, I'm surrounded by environmentalists. Some Canadians are looking the other way in the rest of Canada. They are believing the hype put out by our government and millions of dollars of industry money being spent on propaganda.

      We have a Prime Minister, son of an oil man who got in with only 37% of the vote and he now has a majority in the Parliament. He has stripped our environmental regulations that were built up over the last 20 years. He has silenced our scientists, they are not allowed to speak to the media directly or they lose their jobs. He has taken away protection of our water ways so the industry has no restriction on water use. It's tragic and we are living with this everyday. So to keep seeing all these accusations about the Canadian people is very painful.

      The Canadian people in the last poll gave Harper 20% approval rating. So you see he is losing even his own base. There will be an election in two years so he has two years to further wreck our country.

      I try to highlight the loss of the boreal forest whenever I can. Environmentalists here are painfully aware of what is going on.

      Watch this video of a renown photographer, he breaks down a few times as he tells the story of the Tar Sands.

      Then there is professor Andrew Weaver also from Victoria BC

      First Nations in Canada protest through IdleNoMore. They are Canadian people and they believe in protecting the environment.

      Then there is David Suzuki. These are Canadian people, so don't generalize that all Canadians are apathetic.

      •  I apologize for causing you or anyone any pain. (1+ / 0-)
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        I want you to know how very much I appreciate your input on this.

        Please also realize that I have a great deal of respect for Canadians in general (there I go generalizing again, but I think in a good way).

        It's just that I expect Canadians to be able to see through all the propaganda (unlike most of my fellow 'Americans' who tend to have much better things to think about), and I know many like yourself do.  I just hope that enough of your fellow countrymen catch on to the truth in time to stop this whole thing, and I see more indications of that possibly being the case, based on the information that you have provided here.

        Thank you Agathena for helping to set me straight, or for at least trying to do so.  I am once again impressed by a Canadian.  You surely had better things to do than spend your time trying to educate the likes of me.  I am grateful that you did.

        Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense. Carl Sagan

        by sjburnman on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 12:31:24 PM PDT

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