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  •  I wish it was just the mouth-breathers. But... (19+ / 0-)

    I was watching Bill Maher recently and in two different programs on two different days, the conservative guest, both educated and articulate men with sober judgment and intellect not only denied human caused climate change, but also argued that even if true, wasn't that big a deal.

    One even quoted the long debunked "climategate" emails which had Bill Maher practically yelling in frustration.

    These people aren't stupid.  They just can't escape that right-wing bubble that blocks out any opinion - informed or otherwise - that does not come from a conservative source.

    Tax and Spend I can understand. I can even understand Borrow and Spend. But Borrow and give Billionaires tax cuts? That I have a problem with.

    by LiberalCanuck on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 11:16:11 AM PDT

    •  What you need to believe CC is a hoax (21+ / 0-)

      1. That  97% of the climate scientists who agree climate change is occurring and is primarily the result of human activity are in on it.

      2.  That these thousands of scientists have more to gain from promoting climate change than the fossil fuel industry and related industries dependent upon the continued use of fossil fuels have to gain from denying climate change.

      3.  That all the extreme weather events in the last two decades (major droughts inn Africa, Australia, Asia and the Americas, extreme and record breaking heat waves, 100 year floods every other year, extreme storms with much heavier than normal precipitation, etc.) are simply an anomaly.

      4.  That the mass migration of species to more temperate climate zones is a mere coincidence.

      5.  Ditto for the mass extinction of species.

      6.  That the sudden end to a 1000 year cooling cycle at the end of the 19th century and the radical increase in temperatures, primarily in the latter half of the twentieth century is merely a coincidence.

      7.  That George Soros has more money to fund climate change research than than Exxon, etc have to fund those who deny climate change.

      8.  That the Pentagon, the CIA and the Insurance industry  are all in on the hoax or are all to stupid to realize they are being had because all of them are planning for the consequences of CC and have been for some time.

      9.  That the loss of Arctic sea ice and the unprecedented rise in Arctic temperature, predicted by all the climate models is mere chance.

      10.  That ocean acidification from increased absorption of CO2 is not happening.

      11.  That the scientists whose studies establishing the links between CO2 and increased global temperatures first published in the 19th century and confirmed in the 1930's  also part of the hoax.

      12.  That NASA is full of lying climate change promoters and no one in that agency has blown the whistle on them after decades of their researchers claiming in testimony before Congress that climate change is man made and occurring at an ever increasing rate.

      13.  That the "liberal" media" is in on the scam, too despite the fact that TV news devotes less time to covering climate change than any other major topic.

      14.  That only Fox News and Republicans tell the truth about this issue.

      15.  That science is evil and scientists are liars, while large multinational corporations and their spokespersons, who dependent on increasing our reliance on carbon based fuels are honest and truthful.

      I could add more but what's the point.  

      "If you tell the truth, you'll eventually be found out." Mark Twain

      by Steven D on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 11:58:40 AM PDT

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    •  it's mostly politics (10+ / 0-)

      In their minds, if Democrats believe it, it must be wrong.

      •  Did Al Gore kill the Planet? (1+ / 0-)
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        what i mean is, was marrying the issue of climate change directly to the democratic presidential candidate a death knell for the cause? i admire al for working hard on crusading for this topic, but at the time he was already enemy number one for conservatives and republicans, and allowed them an easy way to turn a hatred and mockery of Gore and Democrats into a hatred and mockery of climate science

        "Today is who you are" - my wife

        by I Lurked For Years on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 04:37:16 PM PDT

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      •  You've the winning comment... (3+ / 0-)

        ..this whole global warming hoax coming from the right wing boils down to one thing:  Politics.

         If you can convince Republicans global warming is a threat to fetuses, suddenly you'll have American right wingers bombing everybody & everything that denies the existence of global warming.

        That's the irony:  Global warming threatens those already born.  Hence Republicans don't give a shit.  But if global warming threatened zygotes, they would start screaming global warming is the biggest menace in the history of mankind.

        To any Republican reading this, I request you write a diary about why Republicans are such assholes. I promise to tip & recommend such a diary.

        by wyvern on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 04:50:20 PM PDT

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      •  There is something to that. I certainly resisted (0+ / 0-)

        for a good long time because of the sources and because of Ellen Goodman's "deniers" rants.

        The low signal to noise ratio -- especially people who didn't care if they got the details right so long as the "gist" was true -- didn't help.

        I went back and read as much as I could of the science -- although, as a layman, I am at the mercy of interpreters.

        I believe that I understand the issue better now than the vast majority of laymen.

        One result is that I routinely ignore anybody who says the issue is simple.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 05:22:30 PM PDT

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