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  •  The second link (9+ / 0-)

    As a former journalist I have to agree with it. You kill this kind of speech by bringing it into the light of day, not by trying to censor it.

    You can't fight what you don't see or hear.

    Trying to shut down a racists' or a misogynists' speech changes the conversation and takes the focus away from what you are trying to achieve. What would happen if this jerk was ridiculed OR shamed OR publicly confronted with rape victims? Instead he becomes the hero of all those who hate PC and love "freedom."Give him rope. Lots of it.

    And don't let assholes change the subject. Stay focused and fight their crap by shoving the truth in their face every (PUBLIC) chance you get. Do NOT let them change the conversation to First Amendment rights...that's exactly what they want. Confront, debate, belittle, satirize, shame, and don't ever let up. Even an asshole with a dickish sign.

    •  There also needs to be (6+ / 0-)

      a better discussion of what is "protected speech" and from what it's "protected from".

      The First Amendment merely says that freedom of speech will not be abridged -- it doesn't mean that you can't suffer any consequences for what you say. If that guy stood outside with a sign saying the University President is a moron, "protected speech" wouldn't prevent him from getting suspended from classes, most likely. If he held up a sign saying "Hitler was right", "protected speech" wouldn't protect him from recriminations.

      I would like to stand a block away from him with a sign that says, "Asshole ahead" -- hey, it's "protected speech"!

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 08:56:21 PM PDT

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      •  if they suspended him from class (2+ / 0-)
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        The Marti, Greenfinches

        he'd have a cause of action and damages from the school.

        Now, is his conduct questionable enough that professors may refuse to write him letters of recommendation?  

        A LoR is supposed to describe someone's talent, personality and character.  If a professor wrote that he's unfeeling and unlikely to be able to work with women, that's a 1st amendment opinion too.

        •  but if he's bringing disrespect to the name of the (0+ / 0-)

          school, that's grounds to fire someone, and so, should also be grounds for dismissal from the school.
          It's sure not gonna get them a lot of new female recruits.

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