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  •  But it didn't have to go down that way. (5+ / 0-)
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    FrankRose, soros, oldpunk, Kentucky Kid, noway2

    I mean, there was no way Feinstein's new AWB was going to pass -- surely we can agree on that, no matter who we want to hang the blame on.  Even if it somehow made it through the Senate (exceedingly unlikely), it was dead in the House.  It was way over the top, no matter how many times people claim "this time it's different."  It isn't that different!

    Why not start with something that even a large number of gun-rights supporters could agree with and compromise on, rather than shooting for the moon, so to speak, and losing it all?

    I'm a gun-rights supporter, but not a big fan of the NRA-ILA (the NRA still does a lot of safety-oriented stuff, just not the political arm), but this one was handed to them on a silver platter.  

    I would have very likely supported a reasonable background check expansion (though, as always, I would have to reserve that support until I saw the actual bill).  Many other gun-owners had a similar stance, from what I saw.

    Off my soap-box now, it's dinner time.  Enjoy your evening.  :-)

    Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

    by theatre goon on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 05:05:53 PM PDT

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      Why not start with something that even a large number of gun-rights supporters could agree with and compromise on, rather than shooting for the moon, so to speak, and losing it all?
      Common DC tactic of negotiation is demanding something way beyond what you really want with the idea that it ultimately gets you closer to your goals.  The idea is that by starting farther in the extreme territory your opponent will give up more in concessions in an effort to meet you in the middle.  

      The tactic failed in this case.  I was going to put this under the comment by sanghoee but it works just as well here.  Your reasoning does hold.  By focusing on thing like an AWB that were so outrageous it inflamed the base of opposition rather than set the starting point for negotiation.  The response from the people can be seen in the phrase, "not one damned inch", which became the rallying cry of the gun rights supporters.  Compromise was no longer an option.

      Blame the NRA if you wish, but the whole manner in which the political debate was handled was a total fumble.

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