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  •  But was this fanaticism? (7+ / 0-)

    There are religious elements, but the ideological aspect of this would seem to be incompetent at best.  Most likely it is not really the motivating factor.  

    One of the things I have seen around Christian evangelicism is the raw and burning desire to just DO something in young people ably exploited by older and more cynical church "leaders."    That is one of the things that causes young people to get so wound up.

    Have you never wondered why it is that evangelicals like the Jehovah's Witnesses send a preponderance of young kids out to knock on doors and try to get people to listen to them?

    Another aspect is sex.  One of the locker room wisdoms I was treated to at the Southern Baptist sponsored college I went to was that a good time to get chicks in the mood was to get them into a prayer session after Bible Study was over.  The, the excitement and fervor would be ripe, and the ecstasy, well, ecstatic!

    Energy and testosterone with no real good outlet.  

    The parents would seem to be cause for young men to get angry.  They abandoned them at a very stressful time in their lives to a society they did not understand.  

    Had they been helped over the hump, they would probably have become a part of the larger community instead of declaring themselves the enemy of it.  

    Thus, there is a case to be made that this is not about Muslims vs Christians.  Nor is it really terrorism, but the perennial "anger" that youth has at some stage for the older and settled adults.  That isn't terrorism.  That is a tantrum.  

    I don't really think that we should say something is not understandable.  The answers may be subtle, complex and not yielding immediately to obvious and quick soundbite style answers.  

    I think the tragedy of this crime is that it may not be about the things people go to war over.  It may just be a selfish and egotistical tantrum without a real agenda beyond an emotional one, and it may never be articulated by the brother left.  All he can do is shake his head and cry for however many years he has left and remember running his brother over.  

    It is more like the kind of tragedies that form the basis of Dostoevsky novels.  You can make black powder traceable, and you can track the movements of people flying back and forth to Russia.  But you can't really know what is brewing in the mind of someone who has been emotionally hurt in ways even the parents and siblings can't guess.  

    What we can hope is that other disaffected youth whose emotional burning needs an outlet won't think this is the sort of thing that might be a good idea.

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 10:22:09 AM PDT

    •  Blowing people up is more than a tantrum (2+ / 0-)
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      Be Skeptical, dalerb

      Why the reluctance to call it a terrorist attack? Seriously, I don't see what we gain by refusing to name it for what it was. We don't call Timothy McVeigh's actions a "tantrum."

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      by Noisy Democrat on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 10:28:29 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah, but are we being intelligent (3+ / 0-)

        If we go for buzz words that are common because most people want to find language that is as sensational as possible.  

        Maybe that is the fault of our language.  We don't mostly think in terms of extremes and degrees of extremes or shades of extremes.  

        When a couple of not too bright guys can maintain an impulse long enough to get some materials together for a home made bomb in order to express a kind of emotional pique, maybe it does not deserve glorification.  They are criminals.  

        Most people in prison are not evil geniuses.  Mostly they are people who put their inability to handle angst or anger ahead of thinking things through.  A lot of crimes are just stupid and tragic because they are so needless.  

        hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

        by Stuart Heady on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 12:20:31 PM PDT

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