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  •  I'm calling BULLSHIT on that study (0+ / 0-)

    The interactive map at:

    shows Illinois ranking 41st in overall gun deaths based on a per capita figure. Alaska, because of it's tiny population, ranks 1st.

     But the number of firearm deaths in Chicago alone (in one month) far exceeds the number in Alaska for the whole year.

    The study skews the rankings to benefit high population states and depicts rural states as being "more dangerous."

    More BULLSHIT that does nothing but destroy the credibility of the Democratic party in rural America

    •  JAMA found the same thing. (1+ / 0-)
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      Glen The Plumber

      Their report (based on CDC, ATF & FBI reports) looked at indicators of gun violence like aggravated assaults with firearms, the percentage of guns traced to crimes within two years of their purchase, and the rate at which guns bought in one state are recovered in another after a crime is committed, a measure of illegal gun trafficking.

      When all 10 indicators of gun violence were taken into consideration, Louisiana — the state with the highest rate of gun homicides, and one of the states with the highest numbers of firearm deaths among children from 2001 to 2010 — ranked as the most violent state. Hawaii had the lowest overall rate of gun violence, followed by Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey and New York, all among the 10 states that an analysis last year by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence found had the toughest laws.

      Obviously, we know that correlation is not causation necessarily...but it suggests that there could be a causal relationship.

      •  All per capita calculations (0+ / 0-)

        Studies that use the same (flawed) methodologies to get the same results prove nothing.

        I suspect that we have 15 to 20 counties that are in high-population density/metropolitan/drug ridden/ difficult socio-economic areas that are skewing firearm violence statistics nationwide.

        •  Meh. (0+ / 0-)

          Gun-fans always whine about methodology when they don't like the study's results.

          The scary black urban gangbanger with a Glock is especially scary to middle-aged suburban white guys who suffer from irrational fears that said gangbangers will for no known reason travel out to the 'burbs to murder them in their sleep.

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