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  •  just preventing them from being sold (1+ / 0-)
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    FrankRose

    or transferred.

    I see what you did there.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 03:52:18 PM PDT

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    •  nonsense (3+ / 0-)

      I don't see anything anywhere in this entire thread to prevent anything from being sold or transferred.

      Nobody wants to take your guns.  So take a deep breath and relax.  Geez.

      •  did you not see the original comment? (0+ / 0-)

        I see what you did there.

        by GoGoGoEverton on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 05:22:03 PM PDT

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      •  Some people do, actually n/t (0+ / 0-)

        “liberals are the people who think that cruelty is the worst thing that we do” --Richard Rorty Also, I moved from NYC, so my username is inaccurate.

        by jeff in nyc on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 06:33:07 PM PDT

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        •  no one serious (2+ / 0-)
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          Glen The Plumber, Mark Mywurtz

          If a couple people on the Internet are enough to make the gun hardcores pee their pants over it, then they sure do scare awful easily.

          Confiscation is simply impossible. There are in the US about 100 million households who own at least one gun.

          There are in the US around 700,000 law enforcement officers of all types, Federal state and local.

          Let's assume that we need 5 officers to raid one gun-owning household, kick in the door, and take all their guns.

          That means the cops can raid, nationwide, 140,000 houses a day.

          That means it will require 715 days to raid all the houses and take all the guns. Roughly two years.  Assuming that every law enforcement officer in the entire US (local police, state police, Federal marshals, national park rangers, etc etc etc) does nothing at all, all day, EVERY day, seven days a week, except confiscate guns (all the other criminals will have to wait, I guess). This also assumes that zero law enforcement officers will be injured or killed in the course of all those raids (remember all those NRA kookers who swear we'll get their guns from their cold dead hands?).

          The paranoid tinfoilers are peeing their pants over nothing. Even if there were a serious and effective movement to confiscate guns (and there's not) it simply will never happen.  It is not do-able.

    •  ps--the Second Amendment doesn't cover commerce (2+ / 0-)
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      Calamity Jean, Meteor Blades

      so it doesn't have diddley to say about how guns are sold, what prices or taxes they can have, or how their sale or transfer is regulated. That's why firearms dealers are licensed and regulated. Nobody has any more "constitutional right" to sell a gun than they do to sell a toaster.

      But of course I got no problem with selling or transferring assault rifles---once they are classified as Class 3.  We can already sell and transfer Class 3 weapons to people with the appropriate permits. I see no need to change that.

      As for other firearms, I got no problem with selling or transferring them either--as long as ALL such transfers are subject to the same background checks and paperwork as every other transfer.

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