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  •  To quote my hero the great american author (21+ / 0-)

    Kurt Vonnegut, they don't give a flying fuck at a rolling donut whether it's true. They don't care about State Department cable procedures. They got their message out.

    Their base and the Info Wars crowd won't bother to verify anything either, because it is what they want to hear. Living in a bubble world, a fantasy world, makes one suspicious of facts. The truth is whatever fits their prejudices. And they have the added bonus of feeling vindicated that their beliefs are true.

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    Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 01:41:06 PM PDT

    •  Oh but you'd be surprised maybe to find (2+ / 0-)
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      out that some of them really do believe these fantasy conspiracy theories that they've been peddling.  I am speaking from personal experience here and we are talking about some really irrational and idiotic people who are participating in this inane quest to find fault with this Administration for the Benghazi attack.  They really think that the Obama Administration is making America unsafe with his Administration's foreign policy and haven't a clue about how any of it works.

      •  Do they think that America is less safe? (0+ / 0-)

        Anyone who takes Infowars seriously has no business having any political opinions at all.

        I really think that it doesn't matter to them if America is less safe.   Terrorism is good for them politically and that's all that matters....

        which why they love it when liberal places like NY or Boston are where terrorist events take place.

        •  Yes they think that America is at great (2+ / 0-)
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          risk, actually - and at least some contingent of the core group sincerely believes that Obama has made us less safe.  It is really stunning, but I promise it is true.  Honestly, the folks that I've heard are so irrational on this front (and really others also) that I find it incredibly frightening that they hold such sway over FP however tenuous it may be given that they have been demoted to the ranks of the angry peanut gallery since Bush-Cheney left office.

          •  There are places in the world (2+ / 0-)
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            like Israel and the UK which actually have experience dealing with a constant level with terrorism over the the past four decades.

            People there don't wring their hands in pondering the reality of the illusion of control, or their own morality.  They just get on with their lives, and recognize expecting security is something unrealistic...and that you can choose to live in fear of something out there wanting to get you....

            or you go out about your business...and live your life as you want to live it.

            These people that who think they are less safe because of Obama will cling to their delusions and their guns, and rational argument is pointless.  They are beyond reason.   They aren't worth wasting one second on.

            I don't  care if they are sincere....they are their own worst enemies....because their delusions and fears have at their core a really ugly streak of racism, and resentment of people who something actually going on in their lives which isn't hate or fear based.

            They don't care about "America"  their paranoia is entirely self centered.

            •  Many of your points are spot on, but there (0+ / 0-)

              is one thing that they have that you and I don't and that is the ear of the media.  They keep getting traction on their paranoid stories in the news and that's troubling - and worth worrying about because the more exposure they get - the more the ignorant voters are liable to absorb and assimilate their lives into their decision-making process at the polls.

              •  Alas.... (0+ / 0-)

                I have learned that there something which are beyond my power...

                and at some point, I finally let go worrying about what these people do....and I concentrate on focusing on things I do have power over...

                I do think you are overstating the power of people with a limited grasp of reality.

                •  Really? (0+ / 0-)

                  I'm overstating the power of someone like Dick Cheney and his acolytes?  

                  I made the mistake of dismissing Fox News when it first came on the scene believing that no one in their right mind would believe their obviously wrong reporting.  Thought people would see through them and moved along, but that isn't what happened.  Have resolved not to repeat that mistake again.  It is probably the primary reason that I spend any time at all on political blogs.

                  •  Again, (0+ / 0-)

                    as long as what they're being told fits their prejudices, it's the Truth. Confirmation of their personal fears and hatred is as simple as aiming your communication right at them, feeding their fear and bigotry. The slicker you make it look, the better.
                    We leftists are considered cynical by the Right when we question religion, but there is an awful cynicism that abandons hope, does not recognize hope in one's fellow man and embraces the worst of all possibilities as not only probable, but certain.

                    I would not want to live like that. I would not want to live a life intentionally confining my own mind and not only believing, but seeking to be believe, the worst about all others who don't look, sound or act like me.

                    A small life is a sad life, indeed. Sadder still is the fervent passion for keeping it small and sad.

                    Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

                    by Gentle Giant on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 07:15:12 PM PDT

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