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  •  What about Libya, Kosovo, and Bosnia? nt (1+ / 0-)
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    by Texas Lefty on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 06:58:25 AM PDT

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    •  Just because they are not on the nightly news (1+ / 0-)
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      does not make these successes.  The problems are not over in those places by a long-shot.  The situations on the ground there remain very complex.  

      It gets on my nerves, and you know how I am about my nerves...

      by ciganka on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 12:11:24 PM PDT

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      •  They are successes because people aren't being (0+ / 0-)

        butchered anymore.  I understand there are still many problems in these countries, but there will never be another war in Bosnia or Kosovo.  I'm not so sure about Libya, but I'm sure about the two I mentioned.  

        "I'm a progressive man and I like progressive people" Peter Tosh

        by Texas Lefty on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 08:05:34 AM PDT

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        •  I would never be sure about anything in the (0+ / 0-)

          Balkans, but yes, hopefully there will not be another conflict.  However, some pretty bloody events still occur in the region from time to time.  Furthermore, the post-conflict justice has been quite selective in nature.  

          Ordinary people live in very difficult circumstances, particularly compared to Old Yugoslavia, and there is a great deal of corruption and criminal activity that regular people have to cope with on a daily basis.

          Probably the wars themselves could have been avoided if there had not been this huge geopolitical shift as the Soviet Union vanished.  For many, it seemed to come out of nowhere.  

          It will be quite interesting now that serious historians are starting to roll up their sleeves and go to work.  These were wars explained by journalists planning to write books, and eager to paint complex events into simple soundbites.  

          It gets on my nerves, and you know how I am about my nerves...

          by ciganka on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 10:50:19 AM PDT

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    •  None of those worked. (1+ / 0-)
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      What the hell do you mean by those examples?

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