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  •  Well, if you see how that went (1+ / 0-)
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    in Europe, the generation of proper territorial boundaries and sovereign governments results in the fairly efficient cleanup of social and political messes internal to the various ethnic groups and coherent settling of historical scores with their external opponents.  Which doesn't occur otherwise.  Being small and economically interdependent and lacking distracting internal disputes to fight out, and having settled their disputes with neighboring ethnic groups, they soon commence (re)federation on much more equitable terms.

    Inside Europe we've seen the splitting up and then refederation of Czechia and Slovakia within less than a decade.  And the process has certainly begin in the ex-Yugoslav countries- Slovenia and Croatia are EU members already, with all the rest desiring and due to get in.  North America is basically a federation- this is obvious on the Canadian side of the border, with NAFTA the agreement which is greater in social and political than economic meaning long term.

    Right now the UK is the process of breaking up into its constituent parts with Scotland due to make it official next near.  There is little doubt about how or why or when, and there is little doubt about a more equitable Scottish relationship forming with England as England loses more of its Empire qualities and elites and becomes a proper EU member (which it isn't).  

    I don't know why you assume giving ethnic groups the most suitable/justifiable borders and sovereignty will lead to increase rather than resolving of disputes.  History doesn't agree with you, nor does the soft bigotry of low expectations about Middle Eastern ethnic groups seem appropriate.

    •  I don't appreciate the (0+ / 0-)

      suggestion that I am being bigoted by being ambivalent about Balkanization. I think you're being over-optimistic. Look at the Yugoslavs - even the new republics are still ethnically diverse. I think splitting up countries is a lot messier, maybe not in federations like the UK but certainly in other regions.

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