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  •  Muddled thinking (3+ / 0-)
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    From two blockquotes in you diary:

    Non-tariff barriers including currency manipulation and complex safety, noise and pollution standards have effectively kept Japan's market closed for decades.
    Japan has done nothing in recent years to suggest it is moving toward a more open market. It recently implemented a program similar to our "Cash for Clunkers" in a discriminatory manner, excluding almost all American autos.
    Once the TPP is signed, government entities at all levels in the participating countries will have to change their policies to conform to the agreement. This means dismantling any regulations, safeguards or incentives they have enacted to support their economies and provide better lives for their citizens
    So your objection to Japan joining the TPP is that they have not yet removed non-tariff barriers by dismantling regulations, safeguards or incentives they have enacted to support their economies and provide better lives for their citizens: which they would be required to dismantle once the TPP is signed. Moreover, the Japanese government could be sued by US manufacturers for not doing so.

    That looks more like a reason to support their inclusion than to refuse it. Or perhaps the objections raised are an admission that US car makers do not manufacture cars in their US factories that have consumer appeal outside of the USA?

    We will work, we will play, we will laugh, we will live. We will not waste one moment, nor sacrifice one bit of our freedom, because of fear.

    by Lib Dem FoP on Mon Apr 29, 2013 at 10:22:50 AM PDT

    •  Agreed. I don't like the reasons cited (3+ / 0-)
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      The US also has crash and emissions standards which are not coordinated with any other countries.

      It is true that foreign cars have not done too well in Japan. But americans cars also have not done well in places like Hong Kong, which has no domestic car industry, and no tariff of any kind. The Big 3 simply have not done well in the asian market aside from China.

    •  "currency manipulation" in the Japanese context, (1+ / 0-)
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      would involve the efforts of the BOJ to try to address their lost two decades.

      I'm sure this type of xenophobia plays well in some circles and is good old fashioned political homerism, but these days, Japanese car companies have significant production in the U.S. because of transport costs and because our labor costs keep falling.  Gary Peters should be complaining about free trade with Tennessee, with its lack of environmental and labor standards in its trade agreements with Michigan.  

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Mon Apr 29, 2013 at 01:53:40 PM PDT

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