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  •  Having contracted this season's flavor of flu... (10+ / 0-)

    ...despite having gotten this season's flavor of flu vaccine (which apparently was only 9% effective in my age group,) I'm not looking forward to next flu season.  

    Tamiflu, a few days bed rest, followed by antibiotics for the sinus infection complication, and I finally felt recovered in about four weeks.  

    Still, I'm going to get the flu vaccine this fall, because if there's any chance of preventing or lessening the  symptoms of flu, for me, it's worth it. I'd also urge everyone to get the vaccine and to get to the Dr. at the first signs of symptoms. Other than that, I'm going to "keep calm and carry on", as will everyone else, I'm sure.  

    BTW, Mr. kurious was apparently in the lucky "9%" that got immunity with the vaccine to this season's flavor of flu, since he didn't get the flu (and he usually catches everything) despite being exposed by me & the grandkids (who for the first time hadn't gotten the vaccine this year).

    •  we definitely need better flu vax (7+ / 0-)

      especially for older patients (there's a higher dose now available for seniors, btw).

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 06:50:26 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, since "flu kills between 3,000 and 50,000.. (0+ / 0-)

        people in the United States each year" we do need a better vaccine.  Thankfully, there are people working on that:

        "We simply need a better vaccine against influenza, one that works better and lasts longer," CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden said in a statement on Thursday...

        "Although it's far from perfect, flu vaccination is by far the best tool we have to protect from flu," Frieden said.

        ...Frieden said the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services as well as pharmaceutical companies are working to produce better vaccines. Efforts include the use of genetic engineering to develop more potent and more modern flu vaccines, with the hope of ultimately developing a universal flu vaccine that could protect against all strains of flu. Experts predict that could be possible within eight to 10 years...

      •  How old must that 'senior' be? (0+ / 0-)

        above 65?  

        Though I suppose I shouldn't care.  Haven't had flu in decades, no colds, et al.  All vaccines in place.

        But whatever age is picked isn't a trigger point (shades of R-R's 90%), so one might like to see the effectiveness = f(age) curve, if there were enough data to derive such.  Usually I just see histograms.

        Just curious.  tx

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        by argomd on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 08:23:09 AM PDT

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        •  65+ (3+ / 0-)
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          Fluzone High-Dose vaccines contain 4 times the amount of antigen (the part of the vaccine that prompts the body to make antibody) contained in regular flu shots. The additional antigen is intended to create a stronger immune response (more antibody) in the person getting the vaccine.

          The intradermal flu vaccine is a shot that is injected into the skin instead of the muscle. The intradermal shot uses a much smaller needle than the regular flu shot, and it requires less antigen to be as effective as the regular flu shot. It is recommended for adults 18-64 years of age.

          Why is a higher dose vaccine available for adults 65 and older?

          Human immune defenses become weaker with age, which places older people at greater risk of severe illness from influenza. Also, ageing decreases the body's ability to have a good immune response after getting influenza vaccine. A higher dose of antigen in the vaccine is supposed to give older people a better immune response and therefore better protection against flu.

          http://www.cdc.gov/...

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 08:25:28 AM PDT

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          •  I've seen some reports that a 2 dose flu vaccine.. (1+ / 0-)
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            for elderly and immunocompromised people is more effective, with the second dose being given about two weeks after the first.  Have you seen these reports/ studies?

            If that is a more effective method, what are the chances of getting one's doctor (and getting insurance companies to pay for) flu vaccine being administered in two doses for those populations?

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