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  •  it was not conclusively shown in the least (0+ / 0-)

    I love when people don't understand data and then cite it as 'proof'. All it does is expose your agenda rather than enlighten.

    To truly look at this you have to lok at who the study population was, whether they are at higher risk than the general population, match case controls, and a whole lot of other 'missing' things from the article to draw any such conclusion.

    I don't dismiss the article. it's intriguing and warrants a further look. But your conclusion (as most of your comments show) take data out of context, misread the facts, and use them to justify what you have already decided.

    No go.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Mon Apr 29, 2013 at 05:40:57 AM PDT

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    •  for those interested in the topic (0+ / 0-)

      a brief primer:

      Why are there so many different outcomes for vaccine effectiveness studies?

      Results of studies that assess how well a flu vaccine works can vary based on study design, outcome(s) measured, population studied and the season in which the vaccine was studied. These differences can make it difficult to compare one study’s results with another’s. As there is interest in how well flu vaccines may prevent illness, hospitalization, and even death with influenza, many outcomes need to be considered.

      http://www.cdc.gov/...

      it's a complicated topic, and won't be settled by newspaper interviews.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Mon Apr 29, 2013 at 05:43:31 AM PDT

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    •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

      Sounds a little like the Greg Dworkin game plan:

      But your conclusion (as most of your comments show) take data out of context, misread the facts, and use them to justify what you have already decided.
      You do realize that the conclusion I drew were in the paper and I merely restated them?

      I will point out that one piece of data you cited earlier in this post was from a twitter account. Really, Greg?

      You've made up your mind that vaccines are perfectly safe and effective. I don't believe they are. I've cited evidence for my case. You provide insulting comments.  

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