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  •  Some of the more successful campaigns (0+ / 0-)

    have said "do X and you'll see Y amount of money in your pocket by such and such date." Methinks that's the way to go rather than talking about the planet. As I said below, when you're broke, the planet is inside your four walls.

    •  there are opportunities (3+ / 0-)
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      to create millions of jobs. and climate change is going to cost millions of jobs and displace hundreds of millions. it's a pretty easy context to frame, if there was some political leadership on it.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 05:14:01 PM PDT

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      •  Politicians go where the market is, if they're (2+ / 0-)
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        smart. Environmentalists have to connect the dots from vote to law to wallet. Do that, and politicians will surely follow (lead).

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        coal/oil related jobs in Montana?

        The problem with the environmental issue is it requires people to have a long view. Opportunities to create millions of jobs, many, in Montana, right now?  And how many to be lost in the oil/coal industries?

        I don't disagree with your views on how important climate change is...but the "maybe, sometime, if everything goes well" jobs--and the "economy is going to be trashed...someday, maybe, if everything goes badly" arguments will not, politically, help.

        To be completely blunt about it: I'm 48 years old. I need a job NOW. What do I care about 30 years from now? I'm a hypertensive diabetic, I'll be dead. Now, I'm not in MT, and the job I want is high school English teacher :), but, sorry, getting unemployed middle-aged people to care about climate change and how the economy will be affected after we're dead is a stretch.

        "Maybe: it's a vicious little word that could slay me"--Sara Bareilles

        by ChurchofBruce on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 08:24:31 PM PDT

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        •  with a serious green tech stimulus (5+ / 0-)

          lots of jobs, and as soon as they're funded. and it's not a maybe about the economy being thrashed, it's definite. climate change will cost world gdp at least 5%, and possibly up to 20%. and it's not only about how the economy will affected in the future, it's happening now.

          The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

          by Laurence Lewis on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 09:05:33 PM PDT

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