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    Urizen, Odysseus

    "There will always be people who work a little harder, get a little more, care a little more, do a little extra, all that.  Their communities will recognize them and value them.  There are rewards in that."

    With my experience, no, they won't.  Last June we had a hard deadline of July 3 for implementation of 51 pgms with 3-5 table access changes in each pgm (and assorted jcl, copylibs, database rules, etc).  There were 4 pgmrs - the 51 pgms were speced, coded, tested and implemented without error in 4 weeks.  I alone did 28 of the specs, 18 codings /with clean compile, and 19 testing.  No one gave me an 'ataboy', or even a thank you for working over time to get it done (but since I was an hourly contract laborer, I did get paid time and a half for the over time).  And, no, I wasn't trying to 'outdo' anyone else, but keep my job, which meant doing what it takes to make that deadline.

    •  maybe . . . (3+ / 0-)
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      JayRaye, NY brit expat, Justina

      being an hourly contract laborer among other hourly contract laborers doesn't reach the threshold of the kind of community that appreciates and values the contributions people make to it.  When people are in a community just to get paid, none of them really cares that much about it.  Why should they?  Under capitalism the products of their work don't even belong them.  Everybody's basically a mercenary.

    •  Guess You Work for a Capitalist Company? (5+ / 0-)

      If you were working in a mutually owned cooperative, where everyone has a stake in making things work well, you might have had a much more pleasant experience.

      The capitalist environment puts everyone at each other's throats.  That is a function of the way work is organized under capitalism.  But that is not necessarily a universal truism.

      Under a different model of an economy, we could work cooperatively and share in all the rewards, both material and non-material.

      Convict Bush, Cheney and their torture cabal. Support universal health care,unions, WikiLeaks and Occupy Wall Street! Time for a totally new, democratic economic system. Turn the corporations into worker cooperatives!

      by Justina on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 05:50:11 PM PDT

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      •  Used to... now with another... The one I was (1+ / 0-)
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        Odysseus

        contract at is probably a top 100 international company, if not top 50.  (Think very big yellow earth moving equipment.)  They treat their employees pretty well, including yearly 'profit sharing bonuses'.  Contract labor was just that, the 'hired help' and treated as such by most of the company.  The only reason why I did do any over time (fortunately none was 'mandated') was because I was being paid time and a half for it.

        The company I know work for is as a 'permanent' employee with health insurance, vacation/sick time, a defined (albeit a small one) pension, 401k plan and yearly 'profit sharing bonus (~ 7-7.5% of salary).  Again this is probably a top 100, if not top 50, company.  This company's parent headquarters is in the Netherlands, the US headquarters is here in town.  They are a significant competitor to AIG (yes, that AIG).  

        So far they've not made any expectations of overtime (except during on-call and have been told that if it's a bad week, management will give you comp time, regardless of what the 'rules' state).  They haven't made any unreasonable deadlines on work completion.  I have been asked what would I commit myself to for the month of May, presuming 160 hours of work time for the month (actually, there's technically 184 hours for the month).  We've been told to set aside 20% of our time for 'administrative' stuff and 20% for on-call/product support (answering questions on how something works, please run a file through for me, etc).  We are to take out any holidays or 'scheduled' time off before counting that 40% of time.  The remainder of the time we are to allocate to 'projects' the 'user' would like to have done to the system.  For example the month of May - 8 hours holiday, 30 hours for admin, 30 hours for production, leaving 92 for 'other' stuff.  I've committed myself to something like 44 hours to testing a new pgm, 20 hours to another project and 28 to another.  Now, they would really like for me to meet those deadlines, but I won't get fired if I don't.  It's more of a guide for management to be able to plan out how and when they can move projects through the system and if priorities need to be shifted (ie, some regulation comes in and they need to know who has what project and/or time to work on this - they could decide that the two projects 'worth' 48 hours are not as important as the regulation project and ask me to re-asign my time.)

    •  Does anyone work harder than (2+ / 0-)
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      JayRaye, Diane Gee

      sanitation crews? Or coal miners? Or bricklayers? Does your job, where you don't even get your hands calloused or dirty, and where there is a clean, healthy environment, deserve more pay than the plumber who wades through human waste underneath crawl spaces of buildings ten hours per day, in order to make your life in the office environment run smoothly with running water and functioning waste removal??

      I like Kropotkin's idea: Everyone works four or five hours per day in their jobs, and the most unpleasant work is shared by all using rotation. After work, there is still time in the day for other pursuits, such as developing scientific innovation, etc.

      The reward everyone gets is a much more harmonious society.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Mon Apr 29, 2013 at 11:21:45 AM PDT

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