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  •  *Groan* (3+ / 0-)

    To start with, yeah I never, ever say "blacks", but rather "black people".  Same goes for "Jews" versus "Jewish people".  The former in both cases just has an uncomfortable connotation and a history of bigoted uses behind it.  But that's hardly the worst of this article.

    You get their list of African-American politicians politico supposedly considered "promising": Fenty, Meek, and Davis, all of whom any of us could identify as weak politicians, and in any case they were all succeeded in their positions by fellow African-Americans.  Fenty got beat for the same reason Davis got beat: they neglected their base in their hopes to be David Brooks' favorite Democrat, and ended up losing African-American voters.  Davis even became a Republican.  And as you note, Meek was always an underwhelming candidate, and it's no surprise he got crushed running in a GOP wave year against both Rubio and Crist.

    I also find it incredibly goofy that they hold up Tim Scott, appointed Senator, as some incredible show of GOP diversity, but ignore Mo Cowan because he was appointed and therefore doesn't count for some reason.

    I used to get mad at all this GOP bragging about diversity but now I don't even care anymore, they've elected a few but are still getting demolished overall in the state legislatures, in Congress, in mayorships and city councils across the country.  Ignore their bragging, minorities are not fooled and are voting for Democrats at higher and higher rates.

    •  I'll admit I say Jews (1+ / 0-)
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      depending on the context. Now that I think about it But that might be something inculcated in by several of my professors, who were Jewish, and just tended to say "Jews this and Jews that" and the phrasing came to be something I use sometimes in certain contexts. I've never been around anybody who was sensitive, or been around its negative, racialized usage like I have with "blacks", so I never considered saying "Jews" as in like "Jews in Europe found themselves targeted by Nazi aggression," to be offensive.

      "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

      by ArkDem14 on Mon Apr 29, 2013 at 08:55:29 PM PDT

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      •  Oh yeah (2+ / 0-)
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        It's not inherently offensive to say "Jews".  But I just know that anti-Semites always, always say "Jews" and never "Jewish people".  Because of that, I just prefer to use the latter.  But of course Jewish people can call themselves whichever they prefer.  I just personally wouldn't feel comfortable saying something like "11 Senators are Jews", versus "11 Senators are Jewish".  It all depends on context I suppose.

      •  Speaking as . . . (2+ / 0-)
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        . . . a Jew, I think I can clarify a few things about the terminology: it is perfectly okay to use the word "Jew" as a noun. Usage as such has not been pejorative, as indicated by your profs' casual use thereof. The problem only arises if the word is used as an adjective-- e.g. "that Jew lawyer," or "a Jew nose"-- or as a verb-- e.g. "to Jew someone down," meaning to haggle for a lower price on something. It seems that the use of the word in those pejorative contexts has made people overly cautious about ever using it, even though it's entirely kosher, so to speak, as long as it's a noun!

        30, chick, Jewish, solid progressive, NY-14 currently, FL-22 native, went to school in IL-01. "We need less of that War on Women, and more of that Warren woman!"-- writer Paul Myers.

        by The Caped Composer on Tue Apr 30, 2013 at 06:56:22 AM PDT

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    •  We made such similar comments, (1+ / 0-)
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      you here and me above, that it's eerie.

      Well, Davis lost to a white Democrat in the primary. Which makes all the worse that he got crushed among black voters in that primary, given that southern black voters do, yes, tend to be more racialized in voting patterns than in other parts of the candidate (not rigidly so, but often yes).

      "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

      by ArkDem14 on Mon Apr 29, 2013 at 08:57:43 PM PDT

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      •  Seeing Davis get crushed (3+ / 0-)
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        and I mean absolutely destroyed (62%-38%) by Ron Sparks was one of the more satisfying moments in what was otherwise a very sad year.  It was a fitting end to the career of someone who took loyal Democrats for granted in his never-ending pursuit of Republican votes, despite representing a solidly blue district.

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