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    The part about not worshipping false idols is an instruction to the Jewish People and, by extension, to the Christians -- but that isn't the same as saying that we're required to believe that all other religions are actually worshipping false idols, much less that we have to hunt them down and force them to worship our way.

    Yes, we do believe that Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the light," but we also think there is a multitude of ways to take that. To take one, assume it's a simple statement of fact but a very strong claim: He's saying, "I'm here, God incarnate, right in front of you; I am He." Still no instruction there that everyone has to worship him using the name of Jesus, or that anyone who thinks He (God) should be called by a different name or who has a completely different image of Him (God) is somehow bad and wrong. And there are plenty of other ways of interpreting the statement as well.

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    by Noisy Democrat on Tue Apr 30, 2013 at 01:53:28 PM PDT

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      the Hebrew Scriptures ("Old Testament") and pull up quotes about "smash their idols and cut down their sacred groves" -- those were instructions to the Jews for what they should do inside the land of Israel (then Canaan). Those verses are the basis for current dispute over whether Jews should allow Christians to have icons in Jerusalem, but they have absolutely no bearing on anything anyone does anywhere else in the world; they're entirely about how the Jewish People could maintain its purity inside the Land of Israel. This is one of the big differences between Judaism and Islam in terms of doctrine concerning how to deal with outsiders -- Judaism doesn't have a call to subdue the gentiles all over the world, only to occupy the Land of Israel. Christians, on the other hand, do have a charge to bring the Good News to the entire world, but not to kill, torture or in any way coerce anyone. I won't deny that some Christians get confused on that point, but I don't see anywhere in the Bible that Jesus told us to go out and twist arms.

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      by Noisy Democrat on Tue Apr 30, 2013 at 01:59:00 PM PDT

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      it's not my party make up the rules as you see fit. I just remember a very religious fellow I worked with once used that the way not a way line on a "spiritual not religious" woman while they were having a lunchtime debate about God.

      This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

      by Tonedevil on Tue Apr 30, 2013 at 02:01:17 PM PDT

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      •  Like I said, there are plenty of interpretations (1+ / 0-)
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        My point is just that any argument "If you believe in Jesus, you must believe that all other religions are wrong" isn't going to hold together unless you build in a whole lot of other assumptions which many Christians don't subscribe to.

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        by Noisy Democrat on Tue Apr 30, 2013 at 02:03:24 PM PDT

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