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  •  Yessbut ... the liberal Episcopalian churches (0+ / 0-)

    have been "welcoming and affirming" for decades, and have coped with the consequences of leading in that direction.

    So THEIR openly gay choir directors don't have to stand there nodding solemnly  and giving the occasional 'amen'  while some Pastor ... perhaps half their age ... thunders on about the PAR-TIC-ULAR Evils of homosexuality, while remaining  studiously silent on evils done TO gay and lesbian church members.

    (And that, children, is why the well-churched Black community is STILL suffering, with the HIV/AIDS epidemic to the degree it does.

      OK ... maybe the GMHC's "SAFer Sex" syllabus  isn't a perfect fit for the black church community ... but, there's been more than 25 years in which  to have worked out their own culturally appropriate program.)

    •  The Ignorant Episcopal Diocese of Albany (4+ / 0-)

      is a mess.  Most of the Episcopal Church in the USA is wonderful bur we have notorious exceptions.  I am an Episcopalian in the Diocese of Albany and this diocese is a scandle

      Newt 2012. Sociopath, adulterer, hypocrite, Republican.

      by tikkun on Tue Apr 30, 2013 at 02:17:58 PM PDT

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    •  I am black ,female and Baptist (3+ / 0-)
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      I am 59 years young and I have never heard any pastor in the churches I have attend thunders on about the PAR-TIC-ULAR Evils of homosexuality and I have attend many churches in several different states. My parents made me go every Sunday And like the diarist most of the musical director have been male and 3/4 of them were gay.  Heck the last church I was a member of the whisper was we had transgender woman who was very active. They did not flaunt their sexuality in church and they were respected as any other member.

      •  Thanks for your... (0+ / 0-)

        insight. Surprised you've never heard a preacher preach against homosexuality/sexual promiscuity/premarital sex. I've heard several.  But that's my experience.

        •  I have heard (0+ / 0-)

          them preach about sexual promiscuity/premarital sex. And sex outside of marriage. The only sermon I can remember hearing that was was close to homosexuality was the story about the Benjamin s, If I recall Solomon was in a town and the men wanted to take them him but and man begged them not to and offered his daughter. Because he some how knew Solomon was special.

      •  What means "flaunt their sexuality in church"? (0+ / 0-)

        Attend with their partner?

        Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

        by Big River Bandido on Tue Apr 30, 2013 at 07:04:39 PM PDT

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        •  I don't think that (0+ / 0-)

          Bringing your partner to prayer is flaunting  I am sure there partners may have attended the service with them.I mean telling everyone that you are gay.

          •  If one attends a service with a same-sex partner (0+ / 0-)

            then how is that any different from saying one is gay or lesbian?  Everyone will still be aware;  for that matter they might accuse that person of trying to deceive people about their sexuality.  

            On a related matter...heterosexual couples attend church all the time.  They even wear wedding bands on their hands, and often bring children along.  How are those behaviors not a kind of "flaunting" of sexuality?

            Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

            by Big River Bandido on Wed May 01, 2013 at 04:13:05 PM PDT

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