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  •  I agree with you and was horrified to see (8+ / 0-)

    a kid on some hunting site who was going for the "big game grand slam" which included a turkey, deer, moose, and black bear.  I don't know if wild boar was included.
    The kid was seven years old and was handling high powered weapons with a range of several miles and had several kills to his credit.

    I received my first gun at age ten, single shot 20 gauge which was kept in my father's closet and I had to have an adult supervising me for me to shoot.

    I was 12 when I received my dad's .22 targetmaster single shot with the same rules.  For my 16th birthday, I received a 12 gauge auto.  I was 14 when I was allowed to hunt alone.  I was 19 before I fired what would be considered a high powered weapon.  I consider my chronology to be a reasonable one.  A seven year old does not need to be proficient with an 8mm or a .243 or .06.

    At the same time I note some parents allow their 4 year olds to operate 4 wheelers, even rigging them so the kids can operate the brakes.  I consider both situations to be a form of child abuse.

    I would strongly support mandatory training for each level of firearm, shotgun, rifle and pistol, with proficiency tests, including the care and proper storage of weapons, and even have retesting the way some professional boards require recertification after so many years.

    OTOH I possess a goodly number of firearms picked up over the years for different reasons.  Latest is an oddball Sauer und Sohn WWI officer's pistol for a wallhanger.  I have no problem having the gun registered through my local FFL (FFL not worth the hassle for ordinary gun owner; easier to go through the local FFL) or even waiting a couple of weeks before I receive it.

    We require a certain age to buy liquor or drive a car so why not a minimum age for gun ownership or four wheelers for that matter?

    •  No substitute for training. But of course there's (10+ / 0-)

      no requirement for that either.  

      Some people shouldn't handle or own guns, and near the top of that list are people who are unwilling to train themselves to do so correctly, which appears to have been the case here.

      How in the world a 5 year old child, who still believes in fairies and wolves under the bed (those were a threat to me until I was about 7!) could be expected to handle a firearm is beyond my comprehension.

      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Wed May 01, 2013 at 12:31:13 AM PDT

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      •  we are in complete agreement (6+ / 0-)

        though I am a gun owner, 3 of my kids have no idea on how to fire a weapon though the youngest is 24.  They had no interest in firearms but had other interests which is fine with me.  They also chose not to enter the military or LE but should they ever evince an interest, I would insist they be trained by a qualified instructor.

        That being said, we are in the boonies and there has been a rash of home invasions with one homeowner, an elderly lady being told to run for her life and was then shot at.  One "crew" was arrested (3 individuals) but there have been a half dozen break-ins since those arrests.  The LEOs are saying it is gang related (rural is easier target than urban where we are 25 minutes from nearest cop) and estimate total crew at 1-2 dozen individuals.  

        I have picked up a couple of extra weapons in case the kids do decide they need to learn.

        As I noted in another comment, at 7, my cousins and neighbors and I were engaged in several BB gun shootouts with some damage to some of the participants (though no eyes were put out thank goodness)  

    •  A lot of it is parents (0+ / 0-)

      who want to look cool.  What better way to show off your awesome redneck genes than by plastering your facebook page with photos of your 6 year old with a dead bear?  Obviously, if your 6 year old is a MAN, then by extension, you must be a MEGA MAN!!!!

      I guarantee those parents allowing their kids to do this stuff are photographing and bragging it up all the way...it's all about the parents.

      Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

      by Mark Mywurtz on Wed May 01, 2013 at 04:41:31 PM PDT

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