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  •  I'm not so sure about some of that comment. (0+ / 0-)

    My nephew loves the monster action movies. He's been found to have flipped through channels till he finds something like resident evil or alien. When we said to him that we weren't so sure that he was old enough to watch without having nightmares he just deadpanned a "It's not real, DUH!" And never did have a nightmare about any of them.

    So... SOME 5 year old children think the things in movies are real, but Pat Of Butter's blanket statement is quite the pile of horse shit.

    •  ok your nephew is at the right of the bell curve (19+ / 0-)

      with respect to movies.  good for him.

      MOST five year olds think the things in movies are real.

      but this is not just about movies.  this is also about the difference between reality and fantasy when it is in the real world and not on a screen.

      I am talking about five year olds who do not know that the actor in the big bird costume is not really Big Bird.  Not Big Bird on television, but when someone in the big bird costume comes up to them and shakes their hand and talks in the big bird voice.

      I am talking about five year olds who have not fully grasped the permanence of death, which is most of them.

      i am talking about kids whose impulse control is less well developed than the impulse control of teenagers.

      i am talking about five year olds who do not realize that if you shoot someone with a real gun it is different than when you shoot someone with a toy gun.

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      by TrueBlueMajority on Wed May 01, 2013 at 07:30:46 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not sure you can say "most" (2+ / 0-)
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        but I do believe that many children have fantasy/reality issues. The thing with training children early mostly comes from families who hunt together. Big hunting camps on opening day, grandparents to kids. In those conditions teaching gun safety is important and usually passed down as tradition.

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        by high uintas on Wed May 01, 2013 at 10:15:25 AM PDT

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    •  Thus the word 'generally' (6+ / 0-)

      I have 2 kids (now 9 and 12) and work in a related area so I'm pretty familiar with all this and stand by my comment, your n of 1 sample notwithstanding.

    •  monsters (1+ / 0-)

      monsters vs. "real" people in movies...IMO, there's a difference. Most kids will say there's no such thing as godzilla roaming the earth, to use an example. But, when the "monster" is a real-life human...not sure a youngster can tell the person is just acting...

      When my DD was 9 or so, she saw an old gangster B&W movie. Gave her nightmares for several nights. She was so scared the criminals would come in and hurt us that she couldn't sleep. I kept telling her, they were just play acting...just like those star trek episodes, etc. Asked her what's the difference between that kind of movie and some of those "creature" films, they are both fake... She said, "oh, I know those (creature movies) aren't real."

      She won't watch any crime/violent/slasher movie w/people dressed in everyday garb no matter how well done.

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      by fumie on Wed May 01, 2013 at 10:16:29 AM PDT

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      •  It can be confusing for them (3+ / 0-)
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        I just read a study using 4 and 6 year olds. They were able to distinguish something being real from being imaginary, or at least to clearly state the difference. However, then the researchers asked the kids to imagine a creature inside a wooden box they were shown. After that, the kids wanted to open the box to see what was in it, because they weren't sure if the creature might really be inside or not. Once they had imagined it, they thought maybe it really was in there.

        They just aren't all the way there yet in figuring those things out.

    •  So are you planning to give your nephew a gun? (0+ / 0-)

      IMO, to do so would be 'quite the pile of horse shit'.

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