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  •  So what? (6+ / 0-)

    Is there some sort of equal time requirement?

    And the fact is, President Obama is the CIC -- the only person who has the sole authority (in conjunction with the SOD) to transfer prisoners who've been cleared for release and thereby end the strike.

    Personally, I wouldn't mind if for the next week, President Obama didn't think about closing the prison but focused instead on saving the lives of the hunger strikers by using the power Congress gave him.

    Under the NDAA, the president can send prisoners home or to third countries if the SOD signs off. The President has no acceptable reasons not to do this and if they die, he'll be largely to blame, just as he's largely to blame for the abuse of the 21 who've are being force-fed.

    Transfer prisoners, resolve the immediate crisis. Now.

    •  There's no equal time requirement. (2+ / 0-)
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      david mizner, Wisper

      There's also no propaganda requirement, nor any slight-of-hand requirement, nor disingenuous reply requirement.

      Given the rather overwhelming lack of requirements for posting at this website, I'd say the only tool we have for ensuring we're staying reality based is calling each other on keeping things real.

      And I gotta say your three graphs here were worth about ten times more than the entire diary.

      Non futuis apud Boston

      by kenlac on Wed May 01, 2013 at 07:21:37 AM PDT

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      • the gatekeeping blues? (1+ / 0-)
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        Boo, hoo, hoo!  You tried everything to intimidate Ms. Raddack, but she still is posting here and her list of followers and her mojo keeps growing.

        Given the rather overwhelming lack of requirements for posting at this website, I'd say the only tool we have for ensuring we're staying reality based is calling each other on keeping things real.

        Information is the currency of democracy. ~Thomas Jefferson

        by CIndyCasella on Wed May 01, 2013 at 09:55:23 AM PDT

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        •  Hey, I lose the popularity contest! (0+ / 0-)

          I guess I get kicked out of your private club now, eh? You can return to patting each other on the back, free of non-member commentary.

          Sometimes I just can't tell if you people are for real or not.

          Non futuis apud Boston

          by kenlac on Wed May 01, 2013 at 11:25:13 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, like during the Iran Contra scandal (2+ / 0-)
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      skohayes, Avila

      the last time a president tried to do something after Congress had specifically cut off funds for the doing of that thing.

      But I'm sure you think the Republicans are much more fair minded than the Democrats and would never impeach President Obama for closing Gitmo after Congress specifically forbade it using the power of the purse.

      •  You're mistaken (4+ / 0-)

        The GOP cut off funds to transfer prisoners to the US. Congress -- including the GOP House - passed a law that explicitly give the president to transfer them to countries other than the U.S.

        The problem isn't the law; the problems are diplomatic and political.

        •  Except that ended (0+ / 0-)

          after the Christmas Day bombings.

          Around the time that the Obama administration took office, efforts to remove Yemeni detainees en masse expanded to include the possibility of sending some portion of the Yemeni population to Saudi Arabia to go through the Saudi reintegration program. The Obama administration spent a good deal of energy attempting to make this option viable.[6] By the fall of 2009, however, it had become clear that it would not pan out. What’s more, the situation in Yemen was not improving, and the U.S. government was losing a considerable number of Guantánamo habeas cases—raising the possibility of large numbers of Yemenis winning habeas cases and thus being ordered released by courts. Indeed, the administration clearly contemplated the possibility of being directed to release considerable numbers of Yemeni detainees as a result of habeas court judgments. More recently, the government’s victories in habeas cases in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals have dramatically altered this landscape, making the status quo—in other words, long-term detention of the Yemeni population until conditions in Yemen improve—much more realistic to imagine sustaining. But at the time, it would have been unwise to bet on this change in the litigation environment. The Obama administration thus faced a delicate pincer action, being caught between, on the one hand, litigation pressures to release potentially large numbers of Yemeni detainees and, on the other hand, conditions in the country that still would not, in the administration’s judgment, safely permit bulk transfers.
          To put the matter simply, there is no likelihood today of the executive branch releasing dangerous detainees to Yemen. This is not because of legislative transfer restrictions. It is, rather, because the executive branch—under the Bush Administration and under the Obama Administration alike—has never let the desire to remove Yemenis from Guantánamo blind it to the reality of dealing with a weak state with limited capacity and willingness to mitigate the threat posed by released detainees. Particularly now, the situation in Yemen simply offers no serious short- or medium-term possibility of a permissive environment for repatriations of significant numbers of detainees, and the executive branch knows this.

          “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

          by skohayes on Wed May 01, 2013 at 09:56:55 AM PDT

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