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  •  Yes, because without Americans (1+ / 0-)
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    to save the world it would be a horrible place. Come on, there is no reason we can't help Bangladesh move toward a more sustainable method of existence than working is deadly factories so Americans can get cheap clothes. It's absurd and colonial. The debt peons that get stuck working in these factories and get killed will be better off as will Americans. The "rising tide lifts all boats" rhetoric is just empty rhetoric and it needs to be challenged.

    The fact that people will bring up the what about the poor impoverished Bangledeshis in a diary about how they are getting fucked right now is amazing.

    We have to avoid the temptation to respond to exploitation by just washing our hands, jacking up tariffs and leaving whole countries to rot.
    Who said we'd leave them to rot? Just because they don't make our clothes doesn't mean we can't work with them to improve their standard of living. To equate not exploiting workers there with "walking away" is absurd. In fact, I bet dollars to donuts that the garment industry is either going to flee the country once real worker protections are instituted, as they always do, or those protections simply won't be instituted.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Thu May 02, 2013 at 03:11:33 PM PDT

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    •  I think there's a logical flaw there. (0+ / 0-)

      You comment sarcastically on how the world doesn't need America to save it, and then suggest we (the USA) help Bangladesh to improve. You can't have it both ways. The fact is that American represents 25% of the world's economy. We have enormous influence and we should be using it. We use our influence by helping buyers - who collectively have the power to create change - toward an upward trajectory for these low-wage markets. If you think economics is basically a morality play in which good people like you get to judge everyone else, then you aren't going to get far. The best example of what can be achieved is the electronics industry in China where US Companies under enormous pressure from the public caused major improvements in work conditions and pay. This is a similar situation. We do have the power to make things better, something we both want to see, I think.

      For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

      by Anne Elk on Thu May 02, 2013 at 04:03:27 PM PDT

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      •  You were the one who assumed (0+ / 0-)

        that paying Bangledishis horrible wages was the only thing standing between them and poverty. And that there is no other way we could do anything. I was pointing out that there are other ways to help. I didn't say they were necessary, but you seem to want someone to do something, so I pointed out another way.

        If you think economics is basically a morality play in which good people like you get to judge everyone else, then you aren't going to get far.
        Says the person that literally just accused me of not really caring about the people of Bangladesh. And who has been presenting the presence of the clothing industry there as a moral issue based on alleviating poverty and suffering. And I wasn't judging you, I was pointing out that you were wrong, There's a world of difference.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Thu May 02, 2013 at 04:54:39 PM PDT

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        •  You can't defend a logical faw in your own (0+ / 0-)

          argument by simply alleging a flaw in return. That's an old trick and it won't work.

          For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

          by Anne Elk on Thu May 02, 2013 at 09:19:12 PM PDT

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