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  •  I hate to say it, but (12+ / 0-)

    my first reaction to Collins' announcement was: "yeah, so?"
    I guess I didn't realize that he was breaking ground. (Not to mention that I could care less about the private lives of athletes, or about athletes and sports in general. Chasing a ball is for dogs.)
    Several pro athletes have been very open in their support for gay rights without coming out as gay themselves and several retired players (IIRC) have come out, I figured this was kind of anti-climactic.
    But it does matter because he is the first current major male sports figure to come out and that is a courageous position to play. You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in them.
    And to my happy astonishment, he's gotten support from some of the biggest names in his sport.
    Good on The Prez and his missus for their words of support, too.
    Last night at the local pizza joint, a tough lady (literally a hockey mom) in a Harley shirt looked up at the Tv and said: "Who the fu(k cares if he's gay? He can play ball."
    To me, that's the proper answer, in the long run.
    As for Tebow, someone ought to read him the bible passage about Jesus going off in the corner, away from people to pray because making a public event of your prayers is missing the point.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Wed May 01, 2013 at 10:05:39 AM PDT

    •  I can't wait until that's more the (2+ / 0-)
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      standard response. Coming out as Christian is no longer courageous because it's been a long time since we fed them to the lions. I agree whole heartedly that it SHOULD be no big deal.

    •  It is the culture of sports (1+ / 0-)
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      In fact there is a long history of out female athletes.  The problem is the culture of the locker room for male athletes.  There is even some concern that NFL teams ask potential draftees about their sexuality specifically because they don't want it to be an issue in the locker room.

      There have been some male atheletes who came out after their careers were over, but clearly it's difficult to be an out current athelete given the culture.

      •  That's why Jason Collins is a good "spokesperson" (0+ / 0-)

        Several people FB and sports blogs have commented that he waited until the twilight of his career to come out and also that he isn't THAT famous a player.

        Well, after twelve years in the NBA, during which he gained a "tough guy" reputation, he doesn't have to prove to anyone that he isn't a sissy and that he can behave himself in the locker room. Had he come out at the beginning of his career, there would have been doubt, and he might not have been given a chance.

        Since he is a journeyman who played on six different teams rather than a star and "face of the franchise," he has shared locker rooms with more people than players who have been with the same team throughout their career. He himself calls it "The Three Degrees of Jason Collins" (think NBA version of the Kevin Bacon game).
        So there are lots of players who can testify that Jason is a regular guy who doesn't "try anything" in the shower.

        Btw, I follow Manu Ginobili on FB, and his post in support of Jason Collins caught my eye because it was in English (Manu's status updates are usually in Spanish). One of his fundy fans replied that it "hurt him in his soul that his favorite player was so spiritually ignorant." Ugh.

        261.A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience. -Ferengi Rules of Acquisition

        by MaikeH on Wed May 01, 2013 at 09:11:26 PM PDT

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