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  •  How many here have seen the tv show Jericho? (0+ / 0-)

    No, I am not suggesting that a corporation is going to simultaneously nuke all the major cities with the intent of establishing a Fascist state.  What I am saying is that the nation is a lot more vulnerable than many realize and that it wouldn't take something as grandiose as a revolt in the way many of the comments hypothesize and subsequently dismiss.  

    We've said several times that there is a very real urban/rural split in this nation.  Consider the urban environments, especially the major cities, which all have a population density that is unsustainable without a constant influx of food and other supplies from outside.  If this supply chain were sufficiently disrupted across the country how long do you think it would be before chaos ensued?  It is said that most urban families have enough food on hand for about 3 days and probably no water storage.  

    A disruption of the system, for example, hackers bringing down the food stamps system, upon which millions rely would be a way to create an immediate panic resulting in the local stores being depleted immediately.  If supplies could not be restored, within a few days, gangs and militias would form and along with them would come violence.  They would be engaged by the police, which would likely escalate the violence into riots which would intensify as food reserves run out.  The forces of law would be quickly overwhelmed.  Call in the national guard you say?  Remember, were not talking about an isolated, localized event, but having this play out across the nation all at once.  Even the military wouldn't be able to contain the situation.  

    The revolution would be upon us.

    •  Is that what happened in jericho? (0+ / 0-)

      I only caught some of that show.

      Folks who were in manhattan at 9/11 remember the closing off of the island to traffic - thus stopping the inflow of groceries. Google defied me from pulling up the history, but I think they were isolated for two whole days during which time stores went empty and it was either open the island to let the food surge in or prepare for news broadcasts of people in manhattan beginning to starve.

      There was the historical land-grant of 40 acres and a mule after the civil war that was never completely implemented. 40 acres is about enough for a small family to sustain itself.

      I'm on the edge of the northeast megalopolis. 17% of the population piled up on 2% of the land. a big enough disruption would have that 50ish million people leaving the crowds looking for food.

      Doesn't even need to be hackers or such. During the Sandy aftermath, when there were like 20 gas stations open in the entire state of new jersey, I saw plenty of folks from out of state come my way for fuel for cars and generators. And the power companies are STILL clearing trees from power lines in PA.

    •  I didn't see this until it was linked (2+ / 0-)
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      poco, Glen The Plumber

      to your comment about marauding lunatics carrying toy water guns full of bleach or HIV-infected water or something equally sinister and ridiculous.

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      So you're saying that the people who get "food stamps" (I assume you're talking about SNAP) would instantly join or form gangs who would then loot and pillage the homes of everyone else. Gee. It's been my experience that most of the people on SNAP are good, decent, non-violent people who wouldn't instantly devolve into a group of LaPierre-ite economic zombie marauders. Most of them would find other methods of survival before instantly going Mad Max on the world.

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