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  •  Sometimes through HRs (1+ / 0-)
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    sexgenderbody

    Sometimes just through a constant harassment due to language usage. Especially when women or people of color call out people who are using discriminatory language. Sure, they aren't physically forced out, but given the incredible whiteness, age, and relative wealth of this place there is clearly something that's a problem. This diary points out at least part of the problem.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Thu May 02, 2013 at 10:43:31 AM PDT

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    •  there are serious problems... (0+ / 0-)

      in our country. Use of antiquated racial slurs on the internet ain't one of them.

      I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

      by jbou on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:39:33 AM PDT

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      •  So you think our use of langguage (0+ / 0-)

        has nothing to do with the dearth of women and people of color at the site? What's the cause then?

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:42:22 AM PDT

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        •  men like to argue... (2+ / 0-)
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          cassandracarolina, commonmass

          and white men really like to argue. We have an annoying desire to be right about everything and will go to great lengths to prove it. Women will walk away much quicker from an argument. Can't speak to the black folks.

          I say be who we are and let the chips fall where they may and also be genuine. People will respect it. When you start changing to try and please people you get all sorts of muddled and messed up.

          I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

          by jbou on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:57:45 AM PDT

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          •  We must know different women. (1+ / 0-)
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            just another vet

            Most of the ones I know can more than hold their own.

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Thu May 02, 2013 at 08:04:47 PM PDT

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    •  I'm still trying to understand (2+ / 0-)
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      just another vet, corvo

      what I'm supposed to do differently.  If the way I write is oppressive then exactly how am I supposed to change?

      “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

      by jrooth on Thu May 02, 2013 at 11:48:18 AM PDT

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      •  They can't tell you that (0+ / 0-)

        because to do so they would have to use language, which is irredeemably masculinist.

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Thu May 02, 2013 at 08:04:10 PM PDT

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