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  •  Good question. We're not really "supporting" (3+ / 0-)
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    fat old man, antirove, Jim Domenico

    candidates directly. We're providing services at steep discount.

    Nevertheless we've decided to make those decisions on a case by case basis. We are decidedly partisan because that's the nature of it political business. But at the same time we recognize that there are nuances. We reserve the right to refuse services to anyone which is why we require candidates to be declared before we'll serve them.

    •  Well, offering services at a steep discount (2+ / 0-)
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      Is support in my book.
      I understand that politics, especially today, is mostly a binary game. However we all know that there are folks running as Democrats who hold policy positions that seem pretty Republican to many of us.
      Here in Vt, we have our famously independent Bernie Sanders, and in his case the local Democrats decided the better part of valor was to not run against him since he caucuses with the Dems. anyway.
      I'm just curious what would happen if there was an announced independent or 3rd party candidate who was taking on a blue dog Dem. Would you be willing to offer your services to that candidate? I realize that without a specific example it's hard to argue the case, and I assume from your "case by case" reply that you might consider it, but I'd like to know this is not going to be a "Democrats only" effort.

      •  Well I completely understand what you're (5+ / 0-)

        saying. And I can say, yes, we're willing to consider it.

        I'll also say as an aside, that at the local and state levels, at least in my experience, there's a bit less of this than at the federal levels mostly because people are running to represent smaller constituencies.

        But yeah, to answer your question, we are willing to consider it. We have to be careful, though, that we don't open the door to people gaming our system - after all who wouldn't want to get discounted campaign services? So there's a lot to consider and that's why we require that people already be filed for office before we'll even begin to work with them. We have to be aware of bad dems and bad cheapskates.

        If you have ideas, suggestions, feedback, I'm open to hearing it.

    •  You may need to keep abreast of campaign funding (1+ / 0-)
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      election laws regarding any 'in-kind' contributions (which might need to be accounted for when providing partisan discounts) are handled correctly for quarterly election reports, and IRS. It's easy to get caught neck deep in deep doo-doo.

      Ask for some DKos legal beagles to ensure you stay clear of potential legal troubles and maybe some CPAs.  Your web accounting logic may need to track this money (real and discounted) with special handling to support the various federal and state reporting needs on the 'back-end'.

      When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

      by antirove on Tue May 07, 2013 at 11:51:09 AM PDT

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      •  Well I have had one person look into it. (2+ / 0-)
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        there's no rule about what he have to charge for services. We aren't donating to campaigns or helping them raise money in any way.

        I've done TV ads for commercial businesses for as low as $750. (Hell spent the last two years doing freelance video work for the likes of companies like AOL, Yelp, Demand, Yahoo for FAR less than that, I'm slightly embarrassed to say). I've also done TV ads for commercial businesses for $75,000.There are others who've done them for 750k or even in the millions.

        At the same time, I've done political ads for candidates and websites for candidates and charged according to what they could pay. It's not a gift. They hired me for a service. I had to price my services accordingly. If I quoted them a price of $5000 for a website, I would have lost their business, since they couldn't afford that.

        We're using some formulas to determine what's affordable for state and local candidates, (many of whom are already struggling to find affordable service providers in their area with very mixed results). We're just making it available nationwide so they don't have to scramble around their towns and wonder where they can get decent affordable services.

        Now, I'll say that as a person who's volunteered on campaigns  and offered my pro services for free, yes, I always filled out the necessary forms to make sure the candidate didn't get into hot water. But here, these prices are/will be the list prices.

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