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  •  Your attitude bites... (15+ / 0-)

    Seriously, the difference between a "red" state and a "blue" state can be one tenth (or less) of the total number of voters.

    So you're saying that in a state that is marginally Republican, voters (including those who voted Democratic) somehow deserve every bad thing that happens as a result?

    Frankly, that's the sort of self-centered, arrogant attitude that I expect from Republicans, not from fellow Democrats.

    Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

    by TexasTom on Fri May 03, 2013 at 06:19:31 AM PDT

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    •  For real (9+ / 0-)

      These aren't the sort of landslide victories that are reported by the Saddam Husseins of the world.  We're talking about a state that nearly went for Obama twice.  And even the most extreme red state - Utah - still has one in four voters checking the blue box.  That's a lot of voters, and a lot of people.

    •  Because it's like that all the way down (0+ / 0-)

      Like your Texas for example.  It's not just that your Gov. is GOP and the legislature is GOP.  The towns are GOP, the school boards are GOP, the zoning boards are GOP.  And then schools are built next door to a fertilizer plant, and no one even thinks twice about it.

      The people in those states have swallowed the lie hook line and sinker that everything gov't does is evil, it never does anything except steal money from the "hard working" Americans.  When everyone thinks gov't is evil, they don't even try anymore.

      •  The large cities in TX are not GOP. (9+ / 0-)

        The Democrats are in charge in San Antonio, for example.  Remember Julian Castro who spoke at the Democratic Nat'l. convention in 2012?  Surely you remember - it hasn't been that long ago.  He's my mayor and is about to re-elected to his third term.  The problem in TX is the rural and small town areas who vote Republican (and there are a lot of them) along with the rich and powerful, who don't actually give a damn who's in charge as long as they get theirs.  They just find it easier to get theirs from Republicans.

        Painting "the people" in red states with a broad brush of opprobrium is not only derogatory and small-minded, it's incorrect.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Fri May 03, 2013 at 07:36:52 AM PDT

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      •  No, it isn't like that all the way on down. (2+ / 0-)
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        TexasTom, AmericanAnt

        in NC. You don't know what you're talking about. Part of the problem here is that the Dems have too often written off NC on the national level. If they pour all the money into other states, that's going to be self-fulfilling. Obama one NC the first time around by knowing better than that. He lost NC the second time around by fucking over the middle and lower classes. We all lost enthusiasm for him at that point. That wasn't unique to NC. You can't turn the tide in a borderline state if you don't give your side incentive to fight hard. That's reality. Scott Brown would have never won MA if Obama had been more effective.

      •  You don't know what you're talking about... (0+ / 0-)

        ...because city council and school board races in Texas are non-partisan.  That means it is not always clear what the political affiliation of a candidate for these types of positions may be.

        And in the partisan races (ie, county level), the general rule here is that the more urban areas tend to lean blue, suburbs and rural areas go red.

        Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

        by TexasTom on Fri May 03, 2013 at 11:52:15 AM PDT

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