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  •  I was nervous about people driving while "high" (5+ / 0-)

    But the old research from the seventies indicated that more psycho-motor impairment results from fiddling with your car radio that from having cannabinoids in your system.

    Newer statistical research also suggests that driving while high is a non-problem.

    You all know the old joke: "Drunks drive through red lights, while potheads stop at green lights".

    “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing
    he was never reasoned into” - Jonathan Swift

    by jjohnjj on Fri May 03, 2013 at 11:42:11 AM PDT

    •  Five special interest groups oppose legalization: (8+ / 0-)

      according to an article at Republic Reports:

      1. Police Unions
      2. Beer & Alcohol Industry
      3. Big Pharma
      4. Prison Guard Unions
      5. Private Prison Contractors

      “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing
      he was never reasoned into” - Jonathan Swift

      by jjohnjj on Fri May 03, 2013 at 11:51:35 AM PDT

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      •  Thanks for figure. That is pathetic. "Locking up (3+ / 0-)

        folks is good for my job, so please keep locking them up for any reason at all!"  Can you think of anything more selfish than that?  Every time I see figures like these, I am amazed at how out-of-control we let this insane "war against drugs" become.  

        Mix the blood and make new people!

        by Yonkers Boy on Fri May 03, 2013 at 12:29:01 PM PDT

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      •  The rehab industry is against legalization as well (2+ / 0-)
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        Hammerhand, isabelle hayes

        Court ordered rehab for casual pot smokers is pretty much their bread and butter.

        There are also police on both sides of the issue. For example, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition was formed to pushback against these stupid laws.

        Law Enforcement Against Prohibition is an international 501(c) 3 nonprofit organization of criminal justice professionals who bear personal witness to the wasteful futility and harms of our current drug policies.

        Our experience on the front lines of the “war on drugs” has led us to call for a repeal of prohibition and its replacement with a tight system of legalized regulation, which will effectively cripple the violent cartels and street dealers who control the current illegal market.

        Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

        by kbman on Fri May 03, 2013 at 08:20:47 PM PDT

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    •  Jokes don't amount to really good science (3+ / 0-)
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      mookins, elkhunter, kbman

      but when marijuana is the topic many people seem more comfortable with anecdotes than hard fact, mostly because it is a highly emotionalized topic.

      "High" is a relative term. I have driven "high" countless times. I have been pulled over when high. Cops are not the experts they want you to believe.

      And there are times when I do not want to drive.

      That said, I don't count because I have driven so much and have ad to drive for a living - hours a day. I'm a very good driver as far as not being responsible for accidents or damage to my own vehicle or anything.

      I remember one time, delivering a pizza and driving high - if I had not been paying attention this stupid lady would have walked right out into my path. She was dressed in dark and walking in shadows at dusk staring at her stupid phone.

      Always pay attention to others because so many others are stupid. You have to take care of them as well as yourself.

      (The last person that hit me was stupid but not intoxicated).

    •  Car&Driver did a test in the late 70's (0+ / 0-)

      and they couldn't find any impairment.

    •  Basically. (0+ / 0-)

      A lot of it comes down to experience with the drug: new users are those most likely to be impaired in a you-shouldn't-be-driving sense.  Stoned drivers also tend to compensate for their impairment by driving slower and actually paying better attention than they would while driving sober.

      Also, I like this revision of that joke better:

      A drunk driver blows through a stop sign and hits the brakes halfway down the block.  A stoned driver stops for the stop sign and waits for it to turn green.


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